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Originally posted by seanD View Post
That is just absolutely and demonstrably not true. That's outright delusional in fact, and I feel sorry for you if really believe that.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
I'm not sure if you're native, or unreasonably optimistic. I think if you actually knew just how much social media and the mainstream news is filtering and suppressing information, you would be genuinely shocked.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
I keep an eye on most legit sources, even fox. I'm aware of the differences between them, and the utlra-conservative sources like Breitbart etc. What I said stands.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
In that case, you are willfully ignorant, which is worse than simply being uninformed.
There is a huge difference between a journalist that has some bias, and a propagandist. Different points of view are not all relative MM. There is no symmetry here. There are in fact absolutes wrt what is and is not journalism.Last edited by oxmixmudd; 01-27-2023, 09:38 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
No - it is being willfully ignorant to only or in a majority look at those ultra-conservative sources. Or to think they offer any sort of glimpse of reality. And it is also being willfully ignorant to think those sources are ever any more than accidentally on to something. They are works of propaganda and that is all they are - by definition. There are no journalistic standards or attempts to be objective on any front on those sites. It's not a matter of them being unable to avoid bias despite attempting to be objective, it is that they represent the most extreme bias possible, and unabashedly so.
There is a huge difference between a journalist that has some bias, and a propagandist. Different points of view are not all relative MM. There is no symmetry here. There are in fact absolutes wrt what is and is not journalism.
That just goes to show the extreme bias through which you filter what information you're willing to accept.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
"Ultra-conservative sources".
That just goes to show the extreme bias through which you filter what information you're willing to accept.
But again, it's just not at all symmetric MM. 0 bias, though somewhat theoretical, typically lies somewhere between conservative and liberal. Whereas ultra-conservative, or even conservative, lies to the right of that, and liberal to the left. So the more right leaning the bias, the MORE biased it is. If I am to the left of you in your massive conserviative bias, I would be LESS biased than you, unless I crossed into the strongly liberal or farther. The reality is that on most topics I lean either slightly liberal or slightly conservative. But to you and many others here that appears as 'way left' or full on liberal. But that is just because you are so extremely biased to the right Almost all points of view are 'liberal' compared to your own. Maybe neo nazis and white nationalists might be farther right than you but not by a great deal outside of racial issues.
If you put me, as I am, on a comperably left leaning website to TWEB's right, they will think I am bang on conservative, obnoxiously so. Some ultra-liberals wouldn't be able to tell much difference between the two of us in fact.
There are absolutes here MM. You are way to the right. i'm middle of the road, taking on slightly liberal view on some things like racism or AGW, but more moderate or conservative views on things like fiscal and moral policies,crime, support for the police, etc.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
Nice try, but the paranoid, conspiratorial mindset is that they would not carry it if it was legit. Reality vs Fantasy is not a symmetric relationship. The reality is that most legit, mainstream news organizations still abide by strive towards basic journalistic standards and ideals.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
That you don't recognize breitbart and others as ultra-conservative sources goes to show the extreme bias through which you filter what information you're willing to accept.
But again, it's just not at all symmetric MM. 0 bias, though somewhat theoretical, typically lies somewhere between conservative and liberal. Whereas ultra-conservative, or even conservative, lies to the right of that, and liberal to the left. So the more right leaning the bias, the MORE biased it is. If I am to the left of you in your massive conserviative bias, I would be LESS biased than you, unless I crossed into the strongly liberal or farther. The reality is that on most topics I lean either slightly liberal or slightly conservative. But to you and many others here that appears as 'way left' or full on liberal. But that is just because you are so extremely biased to the right Almost all points of view are 'liberal' compared to your own. Maybe neo nazis and white nationalists might be farther right than you but not by a great deal outside of racial issues.
If you put me, as I am, on a comperably left leaning website to TWEB's right, they will think I am bang on conservative, obnoxiously so. Some ultra-liberals wouldn't be able to tell much difference between the two of us in fact.
There are absolutes here MM. You are way to the right. i'm middle of the road, taking on slightly liberal view on some things like racism or AGW, but more moderate or conservative views on things like fiscal and moral policies,crime, support for the police, etc.
And to be honest, your argument is starting to look suspiciously like the genetic fallacy, where you accept or reject information based on who reports it (or in some cases, based on who suppresses it) rather than any consideration for whether it's true or false.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
Just so we're clear, you believed the Hunter laptop story was Russian disinformation because you believed MSM sources. The rest of us didn't because we knew MSM sources were untrustworthy. I'm sure there are quite a few examples I could find of where you were duped (assuming you were unwittingly duped of course) by MSM sources and we weren't.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
Look at how uncritically he swallowed the dubious findings of the January 6 Clown Show and was apparently shocked that the rest of us weren't willing to do the same.
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
This is the ramblings of a fearmongering cultist. Covid is your religion, Juvenal. You're almost as bad as Ox, only much more nasty in your adherence.
Your smears are nothing new either. They might actually have meaning, and I might have even taken some offense if it wasn't your MO and what you do to everyone here that disagrees with you.
So get your fear on, bro. This thread is about free speech. Last edited by oxmixmudd; 01-27-2023, 06:30 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
That is one of the more absurd things you've come up with seanD. Over 1 million people dead from this disease in the US alone. And if we hadn't taken the steps we did to curtail spread and create vaccines as fast as possible it would have been much worse. That is something to be concerned about. As is the brain-dead anti-vax misinformation spread by many on this website. These are all things to be concerned about. Things to take the time to argue against, or encourage sanity in. When you watch friends caught up in this inanity die needless deaths because they won't get vaccinated because they listened to the same inanity parroted on this web site, it makes one's blood boil.
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
It's a year and a half old post?My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Project Veritas later confronted the employee who blabbed about Pfizer mutating the virus, and boy did he have a public meltdown, complete with screaming, assault on numerous PV employees, and destruction of their property (smashing at least one Ipad), when he realized the date had been a setup and that he was very soon going to lose his job.
(warning, some language though I think most is bleeped or asterisk-censored(
https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/...37936920633344
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