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Originally posted by Backup View Post
It looks like the black vaccination rate is about even with population.
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...ace-ethnicity/
.Overall, across these 40 states, the percent of White people who have received at least one COVID-19 vaccine dose (46%) was roughly 1.4 times higher than the rate for Black people (33%) and 1.2 times higher than the rate for Hispanic people (38%) as of June 21, 2021. White people had a higher vaccination rate compared to Hispanic people in all reporting states, except Virginia, Vermont, and Missouri, and a higher rate than Black people in every reporting state, except Oregon, Alaska, and Idaho. However, the size of these differences varied widely across states. For example, White people were over twice as likely to have received a vaccine as Hispanic people in Colorado and South Dakota and had at least a two times higher vaccination rate than Black people in Florida, Iowa, and South Dakota. The overall vaccination rate across states for Asian people was higher compared to White people (60% vs. 46%), which is consistent with the pattern in most reporting states. However, Asian people had lower vaccinations rates than White people in six states (Colorado, Virginia, Utah, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, and South Dakota).
And that's despite the fact they've been disproportionately affected. The deficit is decreasing, but there's still a good-sized gap to fill. Their historical mistreatment in medical studies has fostered suspicions. To counteract this, knowledgeable community members have been recruited to answer their concerns. I'm not sanguine on how well this can be translated for those whose resistance is fostered by propaganda so long as the propaganda continues, but the pushback has to happen on their turf.
If they see it on FOX news, maybe they'll believe it, or maybe they'll just abandon FOX news.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Well, there was that time last summer when he said that New York's case numbers were so low because New York had reached herd immunity...
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
Yes - actually - it is. From Rand Paul to Donald Trump to Brietbart to Fox's Trucker Carlson. We've had misinformation about the virus, misinformation about the vaccine, constant fear mongering about whether or not the vaccine is effective and whether or not it is unusually dangerous for a vaccine. You need to own what it is you are so closely aligned with.
I believe my response to this has always been that I am conservative morally but do not fit well into either category politically.
A https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1852549.html
B https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...le/7415947002/
C https://www.factcheck.org/2020/11/pa...d-19-vaccines/
My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Backup View Post
It looks like the black vaccination rate is about even with population.
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...ace-ethnicity/
around 30% of Republicans said they won’t get vaccinated, that’s the problem
[*article continues at link above*]
According to the CDC, as of June 21st, blacks, who constitute about 13.5% of the population only account for 9% of those who had received at least one dose of the vaccine. It should be noted that Hispanics account for 15% of those vaccinated which is a bit over their percent in the total population.
And keep in mind, this has been after a concerted effort was made to get blacks vaccinated. When the program was started in many areas they were being placed in the prioritized groups (elderly, first responders, hospital personnel, politicians and athletes...) meaning they were moved to the front of the line. It is still listed as a priority to get blacks vaccinated.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
Looks like they're well behind to me.
.Overall, across these 40 states, the percent of White people who have received at least one COVID-19 vaccine dose (46%) was roughly 1.4 times higher than the rate for Black people (33%) and 1.2 times higher than the rate for Hispanic people (38%) as of June 21, 2021. White people had a higher vaccination rate compared to Hispanic people in all reporting states, except Virginia, Vermont, and Missouri, and a higher rate than Black people in every reporting state, except Oregon, Alaska, and Idaho. However, the size of these differences varied widely across states. For example, White people were over twice as likely to have received a vaccine as Hispanic people in Colorado and South Dakota and had at least a two times higher vaccination rate than Black people in Florida, Iowa, and South Dakota. The overall vaccination rate across states for Asian people was higher compared to White people (60% vs. 46%), which is consistent with the pattern in most reporting states. However, Asian people had lower vaccinations rates than White people in six states (Colorado, Virginia, Utah, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, and South Dakota).
And that's despite the fact they've been disproportionately affected. The deficit is decreasing, but there's still a good-sized gap to fill. Their historical mistreatment in medical studies has fostered suspicions. To counteract this, knowledgeable community members have been recruited to answer their concerns. I'm not sanguine on how well this can be translated for those whose resistance is fostered by propaganda so long as the propaganda continues, but the pushback has to happen on their turf.
If they see it on FOX news, maybe they'll believe it, or maybe they'll just abandon FOX news.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostInteresting.
[*article continues at link above*]
According to the CDC, as of June 21st, blacks, who constitute about 13.5% of the population only account for 9% of those who had received at least one dose of the vaccine. It should be noted that Hispanics account for 15% of those vaccinated which is a bit over their percent in the total population.
And keep in mind, this has been after a concerted effort was made to get blacks vaccinated. When the program was started in many areas they were being placed in the prioritized groups (elderly, first responders, hospital personnel, politicians and athletes...) meaning they were moved to the front of the line. It is still listed as a priority to get blacks vaccinated.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
No, you use it just the way I described, which is why you've been wrong other times you've thrown that term around.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
You complain about misinformation and then cite the notoriously unreliable CNN. I'll let that irony sink in.
Anyway, I notice that the story is nothing more than a pronouncement from Fauci the Fraud with no actual hard data to support it. His logic is this: Because the China flu vaccine is safe and nearly 100% effective, therefore, all new cases are in unvaccinated individuals. Of course the premise on which he makes his claim is disputable, and if you dig down a little further in the article, you will see that the little gnome's conclusion is based on projections rather than actual occurrences.
For my part, I will consider getting the vaccine as soon it is fully tested and receives FDA approval, which, if standard procedure is followed, should happen in a few years. Of course by then the China flu fearmongering will be a distant memory, so it'll be moot point.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
For those that challenge the idea Rand Paul should have been included in this post, here are links to discussions of wrt himself being vaccinated and natural immunity, which only encourages others to do the same... and some of them will or have died unnecessarily as a consequence“Until they show me evidence that people who have already had the infection are dying in large numbers, or being hospitalized or getting very sick, I just made my own personal decision that I’m not getting vaccinated because I’ve already had the disease and I have natural immunity."
You can apply negative spin to that if you like, but it is a perfectly reasonable position. He has also said he will still probably get the vaccine once he believes his immunity has worn off.
B. An opinion piece, full of quotemining to make his case. Not very impressive.
C. There's a lot here, some worthwhile and some not. In the article, Paul doesn't say where he got his percentages from, so one might assume they come from an unreliable source. But just as much, the article doesn't specify the source of contradiction, saying "Public health experts, however, have said ..."
But seriously, if you want to go on a witch hunt regarding contradictions and bad information, Fauci will take the prize any day ahead of Paul.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
You mean when he pointed out this: https://science.sciencemag.org/conte.../6505/846.full which suggests herd immunity could be achieved at 40 percent?
I also wonder if he read this part: "Our estimates should be interpreted as an illustration of how population heterogeneity affects herd immunity rather than as an exact value or even a best estimate."
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Originally posted by dirtfloor View Post
It is the moral duty of every citizen to be vaccinated. The vaccines are tested and approved already. Do not delay.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Backup View Post
Let’s see, in the future, if you ask us to listen to an unqualified quack who claims to have proven all the experts on a subject wrong.
I believe this particular reply of yours was in regard to Dr. Robert Malone, and his claims to be the inventor of mRNA technology.
I have no way beyond Google to investigate his (and his wife's) claims. I find the list of citations she provides, and the offer he makes, in the Comments on this page to be impressive, but I have no way to evaluate their merits individually.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
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Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
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Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Here and here are clips of Tucker's interview with Dr. Malone, for those interested.
ATM, I'm most concerned about Mallone's assertions concerning the inability to make useful risk/benefit analyses because of the inability of relevant agencies to collect and process the data, and their reluctance to release the data they have.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
It is possible that the infiltration if conservative misinformation into the evangelical community could trigger the sense of being abused or decieved by white people wrt vaccines that in general tends to contribute to that demographic's reluctance.
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