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  • Taking B(l)lack Pride, reparations fee

    Source: https://www.seattlepride.org/events/taking-black-pride



    Message from Seattle Pride


    This is not a Seattle Pride Event.

    We highly recommend an article in The Atlantic entitled The Case for Reparations by Ta-Nehisi Coates, and a policy brief by the Brookings Institute, and looking into the difference between equality (everyone having the same thing, regardless of their needs) and equity (the fair treatment, access, opportunity, and advancement for all people, while at the same time striving to identify and eliminate barriers that have prevented the full participation of some groups).
    Seattle Pride supports the TWOC Solidarity Network in their efforts to create a safe place for the Black queer community to celebrate Pride.
    Event Information


    "To Our Community,

    Our hearts break in the shadow of the recent deaths of our trans siblings Dominique Lucious, Diamond Kyree Sanders and Jaida Peterson. This Pride we honor our fallen, and raise them up! This Pride Month we take our community back!

    “TAKING B[L]ACK PRIDE" is about lifting the voices, narratives, and contributions of black queer and trans voices. It’s about centering who we are and what we need to feel empowered, joyful, and heard.

    ****All are free to attend HOWEVER this is a BLACK AND BROWN QUEER TRANS CENTERED, PRIORITIZED, VALUED, EVENT.
    White allies and accomplices are welcome to attend but will be charged a $10 to $50 reparations fee that will be used to keep this event free of cost for BLACK AND BROWN Trans and Queer COMMUNITY. ****


    Please join us for our HOEVID-19 Ball with $400 category prizes and much much more!

    Come join us for food, movies in the park, performances and open speak spaces, art healing spaces, music, and, dancing in a social distancing friendly park!

    We will also have a Covid-19 vaccine clinic
    (Masks Mandatory masks available.)

    To volunteer, click here!"


    *Support TAKING B[L]ACK PRIDE!*
    Venmo- @TWOCSolidarity-NW
    Cash App-$TWOCSolidarityNW
    PayPal-TWOCSolidarityNW

    Date: June 26th, 2021
    Time: 1:00 - 10:00PM PDT
    Hosted by: Queer the Land, Trans Women of Color Solidarity Network, and Alphabet Alliance of Color.

    Located at Jimi Hendrix Park.

    © Copyright Original Source



    I've bolded the reparations fee part. The cite is directly from the website.

    What are your thoughts on charging a fee for white people to attend? Good / Bad /etc.

  • #2
    Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
    Source: https://www.seattlepride.org/events/taking-black-pride



    Message from Seattle Pride


    This is not a Seattle Pride Event.

    We highly recommend an article in The Atlantic entitled The Case for Reparations by Ta-Nehisi Coates, and a policy brief by the Brookings Institute, and looking into the difference between equality (everyone having the same thing, regardless of their needs) and equity (the fair treatment, access, opportunity, and advancement for all people, while at the same time striving to identify and eliminate barriers that have prevented the full participation of some groups).
    Seattle Pride supports the TWOC Solidarity Network in their efforts to create a safe place for the Black queer community to celebrate Pride.
    Event Information


    "To Our Community,

    Our hearts break in the shadow of the recent deaths of our trans siblings Dominique Lucious, Diamond Kyree Sanders and Jaida Peterson. This Pride we honor our fallen, and raise them up! This Pride Month we take our community back!

    “TAKING B[L]ACK PRIDE" is about lifting the voices, narratives, and contributions of black queer and trans voices. It’s about centering who we are and what we need to feel empowered, joyful, and heard.

    ****All are free to attend HOWEVER this is a BLACK AND BROWN QUEER TRANS CENTERED, PRIORITIZED, VALUED, EVENT.
    White allies and accomplices are welcome to attend but will be charged a $10 to $50 reparations fee that will be used to keep this event free of cost for BLACK AND BROWN Trans and Queer COMMUNITY. ****


    Please join us for our HOEVID-19 Ball with $400 category prizes and much much more!

    Come join us for food, movies in the park, performances and open speak spaces, art healing spaces, music, and, dancing in a social distancing friendly park!

    We will also have a Covid-19 vaccine clinic
    (Masks Mandatory masks available.)

    To volunteer, click here!"


    *Support TAKING B[L]ACK PRIDE!*
    Venmo- @TWOCSolidarity-NW
    Cash App-$TWOCSolidarityNW
    PayPal-TWOCSolidarityNW

    Date: June 26th, 2021
    Time: 1:00 - 10:00PM PDT
    Hosted by: Queer the Land, Trans Women of Color Solidarity Network, and Alphabet Alliance of Color.

    Located at Jimi Hendrix Park.

    © Copyright Original Source



    I've bolded the reparations fee part. The cite is directly from the website.

    What are your thoughts on charging a fee for white people to attend? Good / Bad /etc.

    If it makes gullible lefties happy to continue to get swindled, more power to them.
    "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
      Source: https://www.seattlepride.org/events/taking-black-pride



      Message from Seattle Pride


      This is not a Seattle Pride Event.

      We highly recommend an article in The Atlantic entitled The Case for Reparations by Ta-Nehisi Coates, and a policy brief by the Brookings Institute, and looking into the difference between equality (everyone having the same thing, regardless of their needs) and equity (the fair treatment, access, opportunity, and advancement for all people, while at the same time striving to identify and eliminate barriers that have prevented the full participation of some groups).
      Seattle Pride supports the TWOC Solidarity Network in their efforts to create a safe place for the Black queer community to celebrate Pride.
      Event Information


      "To Our Community,

      Our hearts break in the shadow of the recent deaths of our trans siblings Dominique Lucious, Diamond Kyree Sanders and Jaida Peterson. This Pride we honor our fallen, and raise them up! This Pride Month we take our community back!

      “TAKING B[L]ACK PRIDE" is about lifting the voices, narratives, and contributions of black queer and trans voices. It’s about centering who we are and what we need to feel empowered, joyful, and heard.

      ****All are free to attend HOWEVER this is a BLACK AND BROWN QUEER TRANS CENTERED, PRIORITIZED, VALUED, EVENT.
      White allies and accomplices are welcome to attend but will be charged a $10 to $50 reparations fee that will be used to keep this event free of cost for BLACK AND BROWN Trans and Queer COMMUNITY. ****


      Please join us for our HOEVID-19 Ball with $400 category prizes and much much more!

      Come join us for food, movies in the park, performances and open speak spaces, art healing spaces, music, and, dancing in a social distancing friendly park!

      We will also have a Covid-19 vaccine clinic
      (Masks Mandatory masks available.)

      To volunteer, click here!"


      *Support TAKING B[L]ACK PRIDE!*
      Venmo- @TWOCSolidarity-NW
      Cash App-$TWOCSolidarityNW
      PayPal-TWOCSolidarityNW

      Date: June 26th, 2021
      Time: 1:00 - 10:00PM PDT
      Hosted by: Queer the Land, Trans Women of Color Solidarity Network, and Alphabet Alliance of Color.

      Located at Jimi Hendrix Park.

      © Copyright Original Source



      I've bolded the reparations fee part. The cite is directly from the website.

      What are your thoughts on charging a fee for white people to attend? Good / Bad /etc.
      All those lily-white people in Seattle are hoping that they might get a glimpse of a black person, in real life. Possibly for the first time.

      Boy are they going to be disappointed if they turn out to be just work-a-day middle class types.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Backup View Post

        All those lily-white people in Seattle are hoping that they might get a glimpse of a black person, in real life. Possibly for the first time.

        Boy are they going to be disappointed if they turn out to be just work-a-day middle class types.

        You are obviously referring to the political white left and how they think about minorities, and couldn't agree more.
        "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Backup View Post

          All those lily-white people in Seattle are hoping that they might get a glimpse of a black person, in real life. Possibly for the first time.

          Boy are they going to be disappointed if they turn out to be just work-a-day middle class types.
          Other than snark, you didn't address the question.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
            Source: https://www.seattlepride.org/events/taking-black-pride



            Message from Seattle Pride


            This is not a Seattle Pride Event.

            We highly recommend an article in The Atlantic entitled The Case for Reparations by Ta-Nehisi Coates, and a policy brief by the Brookings Institute, and looking into the difference between equality (everyone having the same thing, regardless of their needs) and equity (the fair treatment, access, opportunity, and advancement for all people, while at the same time striving to identify and eliminate barriers that have prevented the full participation of some groups).
            Seattle Pride supports the TWOC Solidarity Network in their efforts to create a safe place for the Black queer community to celebrate Pride.
            Event Information


            "To Our Community,

            Our hearts break in the shadow of the recent deaths of our trans siblings Dominique Lucious, Diamond Kyree Sanders and Jaida Peterson. This Pride we honor our fallen, and raise them up! This Pride Month we take our community back!

            “TAKING B[L]ACK PRIDE" is about lifting the voices, narratives, and contributions of black queer and trans voices. It’s about centering who we are and what we need to feel empowered, joyful, and heard.

            ****All are free to attend HOWEVER this is a BLACK AND BROWN QUEER TRANS CENTERED, PRIORITIZED, VALUED, EVENT.
            White allies and accomplices are welcome to attend but will be charged a $10 to $50 reparations fee that will be used to keep this event free of cost for BLACK AND BROWN Trans and Queer COMMUNITY. ****


            Please join us for our HOEVID-19 Ball with $400 category prizes and much much more!

            Come join us for food, movies in the park, performances and open speak spaces, art healing spaces, music, and, dancing in a social distancing friendly park!

            We will also have a Covid-19 vaccine clinic
            (Masks Mandatory masks available.)

            To volunteer, click here!"


            *Support TAKING B[L]ACK PRIDE!*
            Venmo- @TWOCSolidarity-NW
            Cash App-$TWOCSolidarityNW
            PayPal-TWOCSolidarityNW

            Date: June 26th, 2021
            Time: 1:00 - 10:00PM PDT
            Hosted by: Queer the Land, Trans Women of Color Solidarity Network, and Alphabet Alliance of Color.

            Located at Jimi Hendrix Park.

            © Copyright Original Source



            I've bolded the reparations fee part. The cite is directly from the website.

            What are your thoughts on charging a fee for white people to attend? Good / Bad /etc.
            Private event and those who attend it who would be effected are likely the type who'd be tickled pink for the chance to show everyone their wokeness by paying more.

            In one way it's kind of like the lottery. Nobody forces you to flush your money away. It's been called a tax on stupidity for good reason.

            But, OTOH, with lotteries at least a portion is put to good use. In my state they fund a whole lot of college scholarships. But as we've seen with the tens of millions of dollars (or more) that BLM raked in with contributions, this is likely just a scheme. Nothing or a paltry token of what they raise will go to help anyone other than themselves.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              Private event and those who attend it who would be effected are likely the type who'd be tickled pink for the chance to show everyone their wokeness by paying more.

              In one way it's kind of like the lottery. Nobody forces you to flush your money away. It's been called a tax on stupidity for good reason.

              But, OTOH, with lotteries at least a portion is put to good use. In my state they fund a whole lot of college scholarships. But as we've seen with the tens of millions of dollars (or more) that BLM raked in with contributions, this is likely just a scheme. Nothing or a paltry token of what they raise will go to help anyone other than themselves.
              This looks like a public event held by a private organization.

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              • #8
                I suspect they're going to have disappointingly few white folks in attendance, which they will of course blame on racism. They'll be right, but for the wromg reasons.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                  This looks like a public event held by a private organization.
                  Private organizations hold events on public property where they charge a fee for all the time. Used to head out to various Atlanta public parks where there would be weekend concerts (often attracting some big names) with a couple of folding lawn chairs and a cooler, and entry wasn't free.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    Private organizations hold events on public property where they charge a fee for all the time. Used to head out to various Atlanta public parks where there would be weekend concerts (often attracting some big names) with a couple of folding lawn chairs and a cooler, and entry wasn't free.
                    Right, but at that point they become public services. I wonder if charging someone a fee based on skin color would be allowed under the law (if the wronged party sued)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      I suspect they're going to have disappointingly few white folks in attendance, which they will of course blame on racism. They'll be right, but for the wromg reasons.
                      I think you grossly underestimate white liberals and their propensity to virtue signal, especially celebrities and "blue check" types that would just relish indulging in selfies at the event and show how not racist they are to all their social media followers. They're just like the Pharisees of our day.
                      "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                        What are your thoughts on charging a fee for white people to attend? Good / Bad /etc.
                        I think they should be charged even more.

                        For being stupid.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by seanD View Post

                          I think you grossly underestimate white liberals and their propensity to virtue signal, especially celebrities and "blue check" types that would just relish indulging in selfies at the event and show how not racist they are to all their social media followers. They're just like the Pharisees of our day.
                          These folks are like the parents of supposed prepubescent transgenders who can hardly wait to tell their friends all about it and be the only one in their group who are that woke.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                            I think they should be charged even more.

                            For being stupid.
                            Charge them to leave and reenter society at large.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              So if white people do attend, they have to pay reparations for being racist, and if they don't attend, they are not supporting keeping the event free for black people because they are racist!

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