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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostSince the state drivers' license manual directs drivers to do exactly what she did, I can't imagine why the department continues to double down that she acted incorrectly. That they protect their own in the face of even official government instructions says a lot about the culture of the department.
Also, since there have been many instances of creeps impersonating police officers and putting flashers on their cars, many police departments have encouraged drivers to call the non emergency line if they have doubt about who is pulling them over. This seems like a more than reasonable practice for ordinary traffic stops, and I would like to think that most officers would be understanding of a short delay for such reasons. (edit: I see rogue posted about this as I was typing)
Turns out it's not just the drivers license manual that says it. In 2017 on Facebook, the very same State Police (who are now trying to cover for this officer) posted this on their facebook:
https://twitter.com/tracetrace__/sta...307192833?s=19
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
I've noticed that people who complain about others being too obsessed with race sure have a tendency to drag the subject of race into unrelated subjects.
That's not to say that others haven't complained about the left being obsessed with race, but I don't recall ever doing that.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostJust thank God she wasn't a minority (preferably black). There would be rioting in streets as we speak. Her "white privilege" makes this a non-national news story.
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Just thank God she wasn't a minority (preferably black). There would be rioting in streets as we speak. Her "white privilege" makes this a non-national news story.
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In the interest of looking for a way forward of weeding bad cops out of the ranks instead of just bemoaning it when it happens, I thought I'd mention a local controversy near me.
An 88 year old Korean War veteran in a nearby town was sitting in his car outside his home, because he has a bad leg and it's most comfortable for him. A police officer came up to him, accused him of being drunk, and immediately demanded he leave. When the resident pushed back and said he wasn't doing anything wrong, the officer pulled him through the car window and injured him.
It turns out the officer had been fired from another department in the state recently for unprofessional interactions with the public. The state Attorney General is looking for a way to ensure that officers are aware of the background of those who have been dismissed from other departments. This seems reasonable.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI'm curious what the full video shows, because I'm wondering if there's more to this that wasn't shown in the news story. Then again, probably not with the officer's "You got what you deserved" attitude. Did he ever even ask her if she was injured?
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I'm curious what the full video shows, because I'm wondering if there's more to this that wasn't shown in the news story. Then again, probably not with the officer's "You got what you deserved" attitude. Did he ever even ask her if she was injured?
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostSince the state drivers' license manual directs drivers to do exactly what she did, I can't imagine why the department continues to double down that she acted incorrectly. That they protect their own in the face of even official government instructions says a lot about the culture of the department.
Also, since there have been many instances of creeps impersonating police officers and putting flashers on their cars, many police departments have encouraged drivers to call the non emergency line if they have doubt about who is pulling them over. This seems like a more than reasonable practice for ordinary traffic stops, and I would like to think that most officers would be understanding of a short delay for such reasons. (edit: I see rogue posted about this as I was typing)
Then again, they might construe your actions as reaching for a gun
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Since the state drivers' license manual directs drivers to do exactly what she did, I can't imagine why the department continues to double down that she acted incorrectly. That they protect their own in the face of even official government instructions says a lot about the culture of the department.
Also, since there have been many instances of creeps impersonating police officers and putting flashers on their cars, many police departments have encouraged drivers to call the non emergency line if they have doubt about who is pulling them over. This seems like a more than reasonable practice for ordinary traffic stops, and I would like to think that most officers would be understanding of a short delay for such reasons. (edit: I see rogue posted about this as I was typing)Last edited by KingsGambit; 06-10-2021, 11:04 AM.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIn my experience (yes, I do have some some experience getting pulled over by the police ), officers are usually happy to wait until there is a nice wide shoulder or a parking lot to pull into so their backside isn't getting clipped by passing cars, but 2-minutes does strike me as an excessively long time. Of course that in no way justifies the officer's response, nor his false statement that you're obligated to pull over immediately no matter what. It's just one of those curious details that seem inexplicable to me.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Every so often there are stories about someone who bought some police lights online or from a surplus store and using them to pull people over. Most of the time they're essentially playing make believe and just pretending to be an off-duty cop issuing a verbal warning or caution, but occasionally they've been used to rape or rob. The police would even tell you that if you were concerned about the authenticity of the car with the flashing lights behind you to do just what the driver was doing. Slow down, turn on your blinkers and proceed to a safe area. In the case of fake cops these safe spots were where other people were present (stores and the like).
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIn my experience (yes, I do have some some experience getting pulled over by the police ), officers are usually happy to wait until there is a nice wide shoulder or a parking lot to pull into so their backside isn't getting clipped by passing cars, but 2-minutes does strike me as an excessively long time. Of course that in no way justifies the officer's response, nor his false statement that you're obligated to pull over immediately no matter what. It's just one of those curious details that seem inexplicable to me.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIn my experience (yes, I do have some some experience getting pulled over by the police ), officers are usually happy to wait until there is a nice wide shoulder or a parking lot to pull into so their backside isn't getting clipped by passing cars, but 2-minutes does strike me as an excessively long time. Of course that in no way justifies the officer's response, nor his false statement that you're obligated to pull over immediately no matter what. It's just one of those curious details that seem inexplicable to me.
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