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The Psychopathic Problem of the White Mind
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
Radical leftists spewing out racist and psychotic tripe in academia is going produce a counter response from rightwing media. Gee, ya think?
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
So basically your problem is that Fox news is pointing out what they are teaching in a negative way?
Well, guess what? Conservatives think that what they are teaching is racist itself and wrong. Just read this board. Most of us don't bother to get our news from Fox in the first place.
My claims about Fox News can be applied to far-right news media in general.
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Why even tie these things to "whiteness?" What makes them a function of whiteness? Why is color blindness a bad thing? Why question equality or the scientific method in the first place if not to attack? Why focus on skin color rather than merit? If we were speaking of "blackness" would you have the same acceptance? And why is this nonsense finding its way into grade schools? How could the white kids in class not be singled out? And if "white supremacy" is the default position how will that effect white kids in class?
https://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ1265226
Color blindness is bad because it's reactive to racism, whereas being mindful of race allows one to be proactive in fighting racism. Most racism comes in the form of bias, and if you're color blind, that means you're not actively fighting against any possible bias, which means that you can't stop racist actions from happening.
I could easily imagine a similar poster being made about blackness, I would be fine with that I guess, I don't really care about the National Museum of African American History & Culture outside of their making something innocuous that's been deliberately taken out of context.
What specific material or lessons that are happening in grade schools are you concerned about?
Why do you care about this random academic article?
Originally posted by seer View Post
You are daft. Fox was actually late to the game, I have been following this over two years. CRT is a racial construct:
"they favor a race-conscious approach to social transformation, critiquing liberal ideas such as affirmative action, color blindness, role modeling, or the merit principle; and an approach that relies more on political organizing, in contrast to liberalism's reliance on rights-based remedies."
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
How have you or anyone you know been negatively impacted in any way by CRT?
However, focusing on the label ignores the actual concerns that are had.
For example, Biden's Black-only farm aid just ran into a judicial wall due to its unequal treatment of race.
Mandatory Race Based Training where people are taught that they are oppressors can easily create a hostile work environment.
etc.
While you can argue all you want that those complaints have nothing to do with CRT, and that Republicans have CRT wrong, that doesn't change that the complaints underlying that label, and whether or not they have merit.
Personally, I see the whole CRT as part of the larger aggressive social justice movement that's going on. It's a movement that seeks to aggressively reform society to correct for past wrongs, but often does so by trampling on, and dismissing those that it labels oppressors, and often uses (or advocates) the same sort of tactics against "oppressors" that were used by "oppressors" in the past, but given a more positive label. Segregated areas become safe spaces, hiring discrimination becomes "diversity", racism becomes "merely prejudiced", etc.Last edited by CivilDiscourse; 06-13-2021, 04:52 AM.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
The poster is attempting to list aspects of white cultural in order for people to questions these things as the default. There are some cultures that don't emphasize the scientific method. Nowhere does it say the scientific method is bad or wrong. The idea that the poster is attacking the scientific method is something conservative media made up in order to make you mad so you click on their web page for the article about the poster and share it with others so they click it too. Not only that, now that you're mad at liberals attacking the scientific method, you're more likely to click other related articles about made-up BS on their website. It is a calculated business decision at your expense.
What specific material or lessons that are happening in grade schools are you concerned about?
Debate emerges over racism and white supremacy in Oregon math instruction
A Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction does offer an 82-page workbook on how teachers can "examine their actions, beliefs, and values around teaching mathematics." The group claims white supremacy culture can show up in the classroom in various ways, including when "the focus is on getting the 'right' answer," and when "students are required to 'show their work.'"
The group also says educators should try to "center ethnomathematics" by identifying and challenging the ways that "math is used to uphold capitalist, imperialist, and racist views."
https://katu.com/news/local/debate-e...th-instruction
Color blindness is bad because it's reactive to racism, whereas being mindful of race allows one to be proactive in fighting racismAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
One thin you have to remember is that conservatives have labeled this entire new "omni-present Race Consciousness" as CRT. Much of it is an offshoot of the original CRT idea, and may not be explicitly CRT anymore.
However, focusing on the label ignores the actual concerns that are had.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Nonsense PM, why is hard work, politeness, the scientific method, being on time, rational thinking, equality limited to white people?
If those are traits of white people, the implication is that they are uncommon in minorities like blacks, Asians and Hispanics.
Leftwing racism rears its ugly head yet again.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIf you said that various minorities were normally surly and rude, never on time, and irrational you would be called a racist, but that is EXACTLY what the left is doing here by labelling these as "white" traits.
If those are traits of white people, the implication is that they are uncommon in minorities like blacks, Asians and Hispanics.
Leftwing racism rears its ugly head yet again.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
A single article by a nobody doesn't require a counter response.The only purpose in shining a light on it is to create controversy out of nothing and get people angry for outrage clicks.
Originally posted by seanD View PostThe only argument a person on the left has is to just downplay it like it's not really happening or not that bad... but it is.
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Originally posted by Backup View Post
This was exposed by the New York Times and her office is now permanently closed.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
How have you or anyone you know been negatively impacted in any way by CRT?
A school board member gave a graduation speech in which she told a mainly-immigrant class of high schoolers that they were entering a world filled with “racism, extreme versions of individualism and capitalism, [and] white supremacy,” and encouraged them to remember their “jihad” and reject the concepts of objectivity and neutrality.
https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...ncement-speech
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Really, her site is still up and active.
Three quick thoughts:
A) Hasn't the poor woman suffered enough? After all she was "bombarded with embarrassing 1-star ratings"!!!1! What's next the rack? Thumb screws? Won't someone please think of the children?!?
2. Now remember, if you ever decide to use violent racist language be sure that you characterize it as nothing more than "Provocation as a tool for real engagement."
b] Universities routinely "disinvite" the very few conservatives asked to speak on campus claiming that whoever they are and whatever they say will simply be too controversial, and yet have no problem with this sort of stuff.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
Three quick thoughts:
A) Hasn't the poor woman suffered enough? After all she was "bombarded with embarrassing 1-star ratings"!!!1! What's next the rack? Thumb screws? Won't someone please think of the children?!?
2. Now remember, if you ever decide to use violent racist language be sure that you characterize it as nothing more than "Provocation as a tool for real engagement."
b] Universities routinely "disinvite" the very few conservatives asked to speak on campus claiming that whoever they are and whatever they say will simply be too controversial, and yet have no problem with this sort of stuff.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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