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    A good start...

    US judge overturns California’s ban on assault weapons

    A federal judge on Friday overturned California’s long-standing assault weapons ban on constitutional grounds.

    US District Judge Roger Benitez of San Diego ruled that the 1989 ban on military-style rifles deprives state residents of their right to bear arms.

    “Under no level of heightened scrutiny can the law survive,” Benitez said.

    “Like the Swiss Army knife, the popular AR-15 rifle is a perfect combination of home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment. Good for both home and battle,” the judge said in his ruling’s introduction.

    https://nypost.com/2021/06/04/us-jud...sault-weapons/
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

  • #2
    AR-15 owners should get together, form a circle and practice shooting at targets placed at the centre of the circle.
    “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
    “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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    • #3
      Originally posted by seer View Post
      A good start...

      US judge overturns California’s ban on assault weapons

      A federal judge on Friday overturned California’s long-standing assault weapons ban on constitutional grounds.

      US District Judge Roger Benitez of San Diego ruled that the 1989 ban on military-style rifles deprives state residents of their right to bear arms.

      “Under no level of heightened scrutiny can the law survive,” Benitez said.

      “Like the Swiss Army knife, the popular AR-15 rifle is a perfect combination of home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment. Good for both home and battle,” the judge said in his ruling’s introduction.

      https://nypost.com/2021/06/04/us-jud...sault-weapons/
      One of the biggest problems that those who like the "assault weapon" ban has been their difficulty in explaining how they would distinguish between them and your typical semi-automatic hunting rifle. The first and probably the last time they tried, it was based on cosmetic features and that ended in compete failure.

      I'm always still in trouble again

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      • #4
        Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
        AR-15 owners should get together, form a circle and practice shooting at targets placed at the centre of the circle.
        Glad to see you volunteering.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

          Glad to see you volunteering.
          He has experience with being a javelin catcher at the Olympic try-outs

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #6
            I assume this ruling will eventually make its way to the US Supreme Court, and if they uphold it, that will put a definitive end to any hope liberals have of making an end run around the Second Amendment.
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              I assume this ruling will eventually make its way to the US Supreme Court, and if they uphold it, that will put a definitive end to any hope liberals have of making an end run around the Second Amendment.
              And be added as another reason why they must stack the supreme court in order to push their agenda

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                And be added as another reason why they must stack the supreme court in order to push their agenda
                The Democrats seem to have backed off on wanting to expand the Supreme Court. I think they realized how politically costly such a move would be.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                  The Democrats seem to have backed off on wanting to expand the Supreme Court. I think they realized how politically costly such a move would be.
                  No. I think it boils down to the fact that they are locked behind a filibuster wall until they can get the two democrat holdouts to agree to eliminate it. They can't harp on SCOTUS until they have the power to do something about it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    The Democrats seem to have backed off on wanting to expand the Supreme Court. I think they realized how politically costly such a move would be.
                    Forget 2A. See how long that lasts if SCOTUS increases restrictions on abortions

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by seer View Post
                      A good start...

                      US judge overturns California’s ban on assault weapons

                      A federal judge on Friday overturned California’s long-standing assault weapons ban on constitutional grounds.

                      US District Judge Roger Benitez of San Diego ruled that the 1989 ban on military-style rifles deprives state residents of their right to bear arms.

                      “Under no level of heightened scrutiny can the law survive,” Benitez said.

                      “Like the Swiss Army knife, the popular AR-15 rifle is a perfect combination of home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment. Good for both home and battle,” the judge said in his ruling’s introduction.

                      https://nypost.com/2021/06/04/us-jud...sault-weapons/
                      I simply will never be able to celebrate this sort of 'victory'. The right to bear arms - far from being our savior - has become our curse.

                      https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/r.../mass-shooting

                      - consider the mass shootings in the US in just the last 2 weeks: (numbers columns are dead/injured)
                      2026123 June 6, 2021 Florida Miami (Kendall) 10549 SW 109th Ct 3 6
                      2026802 June 6, 2021 Missouri Saint Louis 100 N 7th St 0 4
                      2026713 June 6, 2021 Utah Salt Lake City 1359 N General Dr 1 4
                      2026651 June 6, 2021 North Carolina Maury Katie Ct 0 4
                      2026112 June 6, 2021 Illinois Chicago 8900 block of S Cottage Grove Ave 0 8
                      2026257 June 5, 2021 Louisiana New Orleans 10150 I-10 Service Rd 0 8
                      2025260 June 5, 2021 Indiana Indianapolis 7500 N. Shadeland Ave 2 2
                      2025891 June 4, 2021 Michigan Muskegon 1675 E. Sherman Blvd 1 3
                      2022821 June 2, 2021 Ohio Toledo 1830 W Bancroft St 0 4
                      2025254 June 2, 2021 Arkansas Magnolia Calhoun Rd 0 4
                      2022391 June 2, 2021 Ohio Springfield 1935 S Yellow Springs St 0 6
                      2021130 May 31, 2021 New York Brooklyn Knickerbocker Ave 0 4
                      2021398 May 31, 2021 Missouri Saint Louis 8800 block of N Broadway 0 4
                      2022129 May 31, 2021 Ohio Cleveland (Garfield Heights) 13000 block of Alvin Ave 1 5
                      2019751 May 30, 2021 Alabama Aliceville 7th Street NE 1 4
                      2019622 May 30, 2021 Florida Miami 7630 NW 186th St 3 20
                      2020535 May 30, 2021 Illinois Chicago 6718 S Stony Island Ave 0 4
                      2019155 May 29, 2021 Texas San Antonio 3300 block of Fallen Leaf Ln 2 2
                      2019384 May 29, 2021 Missouri Saint Louis 10466 W Florissant Ave 1 3
                      2018931 May 28, 2021 Florida Miami 2022 NW 1st Ct 1 6
                      2018495 May 27, 2021 North Carolina Durham 1200 block of Fayetteville St 0 5
                      2015849 May 26, 2021 Illinois Chicago 7200 block of S Princeton Ave 1 3
                      2015730 May 26, 2021 California San Jose 101 W Younger Ave 10 0
                      2014343 May 24, 2021 Michigan Inkster 27000 block of Rosewood St 2 2
                      2014381 May 24, 2021 Ohio West Jefferson 127 Jackson St 4 0
                      Mockery is the argument of the mentally and/or emotionally challenged.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

                        I simply will never be able to celebrate this sort of 'victory'. The right to bear arms - far from being our savior - has become our curse.

                        https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/r.../mass-shooting

                        - consider the mass shootings in the US in just the last 2 weeks: (numbers columns are dead/injured)
                        2026123 June 6, 2021 Florida Miami (Kendall) 10549 SW 109th Ct 3 6
                        2026802 June 6, 2021 Missouri Saint Louis 100 N 7th St 0 4
                        2026713 June 6, 2021 Utah Salt Lake City 1359 N General Dr 1 4
                        2026651 June 6, 2021 North Carolina Maury Katie Ct 0 4
                        2026112 June 6, 2021 Illinois Chicago 8900 block of S Cottage Grove Ave 0 8
                        2026257 June 5, 2021 Louisiana New Orleans 10150 I-10 Service Rd 0 8
                        2025260 June 5, 2021 Indiana Indianapolis 7500 N. Shadeland Ave 2 2
                        2025891 June 4, 2021 Michigan Muskegon 1675 E. Sherman Blvd 1 3
                        2022821 June 2, 2021 Ohio Toledo 1830 W Bancroft St 0 4
                        2025254 June 2, 2021 Arkansas Magnolia Calhoun Rd 0 4
                        2022391 June 2, 2021 Ohio Springfield 1935 S Yellow Springs St 0 6
                        2021130 May 31, 2021 New York Brooklyn Knickerbocker Ave 0 4
                        2021398 May 31, 2021 Missouri Saint Louis 8800 block of N Broadway 0 4
                        2022129 May 31, 2021 Ohio Cleveland (Garfield Heights) 13000 block of Alvin Ave 1 5
                        2019751 May 30, 2021 Alabama Aliceville 7th Street NE 1 4
                        2019622 May 30, 2021 Florida Miami 7630 NW 186th St 3 20
                        2020535 May 30, 2021 Illinois Chicago 6718 S Stony Island Ave 0 4
                        2019155 May 29, 2021 Texas San Antonio 3300 block of Fallen Leaf Ln 2 2
                        2019384 May 29, 2021 Missouri Saint Louis 10466 W Florissant Ave 1 3
                        2018931 May 28, 2021 Florida Miami 2022 NW 1st Ct 1 6
                        2018495 May 27, 2021 North Carolina Durham 1200 block of Fayetteville St 0 5
                        2015849 May 26, 2021 Illinois Chicago 7200 block of S Princeton Ave 1 3
                        2015730 May 26, 2021 California San Jose 101 W Younger Ave 10 0
                        2014343 May 24, 2021 Michigan Inkster 27000 block of Rosewood St 2 2
                        2014381 May 24, 2021 Ohio West Jefferson 127 Jackson St 4 0
                        How many were by AR-15?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                          How many were by AR-15?
                          The real irony is that firearms like AR-15s were rarely if ever used in the commission of any sort of crimes including murder until the government kept making a lot of noise about them. Immediately afterwards, coincidentally I'm sure, you started seeing a steady increase in their use for such activities.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

                            I simply will never be able to celebrate this sort of 'victory'. The right to bear arms - far from being our savior - has become our curse.
                            You do know that most people killed with a firearm are killed with a pistol. Would you ban those too?

                            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by seer View Post

                              You do know that most people killed with a firearm are killed with a pistol. Would you ban those too?
                              For the longest time handguns were pretty much the only target of the gun grabbers -- particularly inexpensive models which the poor could afford (so-called Saturday Night Specials).

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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