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    In the past couple of months some folks are starting to realize that all that money given to BLM is not going to help black communities, or to families of those killed in a confrontation with police. And some of them are starting to get angry.

    Source: Mothers criticize BLM activists for profiting off their dead sons


    Grief-stricken mothers who have accused Black Lives Matter of profiting from the deaths of their sons condemned the group’s embattled co-founder Patrisse Cullors after she announced she was stepping down from the movement.

    “I don’t believe she is going anywhere,” Samaria Rice, the mother of a 12-year-old boy shot by Cleveland police while playing with a toy gun, told The Post. “It’s all a facade. She’s only saying that to get the heat off her right now.”

    Lisa Simpson, a Los Angeles-based mother whose son was slain by police in 2016, also blasted Cullors.

    “Now she doesn’t have to show her accountability,” Simpson, 52, told The Post. “She can just take the money and run.”

    Cullors, the executive director of the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, announced on Thursday she was leaving the group a month after The Post reported on her $3.2 million real-estate buying spree and questions about the group’s finances.

    ullors did not respond to a request for comment. She has said her departure had been in the works for a year and was not tied to what she called “right wing attacks that tried to discredit my character.”

    Rice, 44, told The Post she first sought out Cullors to enlist the group’s help in re-opening a federal investigation into her son’s 2014 death. She said she exchanged a few emails with Cullors over the years, but had never managed a face-to-face meeting.

    “They are benefiting off the blood of our loved ones, and they won’t even talk to us,” said Rice, who has also blasted activists Shaun King and Tamika Mallory, whose speech at the Grammy Awards in March called on African Americans to “demand the freedom that this land promises.”

    In March Rice joined with Simpson, the mother of Richard Risher, to blast BLM for, as Simpson put it, “raising money in our dead sons’ names and giving us nothing in return.”

    BLM’s Los Angeles chapter raised $5,000 for her son’s funeral, but Simpson claimed she never received any of it.

    “We never hired them to be the representatives in the fight for justice for our dead loved ones murdered by the police,” said the statement by Rice and Simpson posted March 16 by activist @Free Mumia Abu-Jamal. “The ‘activists’ have events in our cities and have not given us anything substantial for using our loved ones’ images and names on their flyers. We don’t want or need y’all parading in the streets accumulating donations, platforms, movie deals, etc. off the death of our loved ones, while the families and communities are left clueless and broken.”

    Tamika Palmer, the mother of Breonna Taylor, who was shot dead in a police raid at her home in Louisville, KY, said the movement also failed her.

    “I have never personally dealt with BLM Louisville and personally have found them to be fraud (sic),” Palmer wrote in an April 14 Facebook post that was quickly removed. Palmer did not return The Post’s repeated calls.

    In addition to the mothers, BLM Global Network Foundation also faced criticisms from their own members last year. In an open letter, 10 local BLM groups ripped the foundation for what they called a lack of accountability and transparency.

    “To the best of our knowledge, most chapters have received little to no financial support from BLMGN since the launch in 2013,” said the chapters, which included groups from New Jersey and the Hudson Valley.

    A few months later, BLM Global Network Foundation disclosed that it had raised $90 million in donations, fueling even more criticism.

    On Nov. 22, 2014, Tamir Rice was shot dead outside a recreation center while holding a toy gun by white police officer Timothy Loehmann, who was responding to a dispatch about a man with a gun. Last week, a lawyer for Loehmann filed an appeal with the Ohio Supreme Court to get his job back after he was fired in 2017 for providing false information on a job application.

    Tamir’s mom started the Tamir Rice Foundation in 2017 to raise awareness of her son’s death and has been working with Cleveland attorney Subodh Chandra to re-open a federal investigation. The probe into the police officer who shot the youth was started under the Obama administration and shelved last year. “There was political interference and a questionable deal was cut,” Chandra told The Post. “Samaria Rice has been thwarted from having even a shot at due process much less justice for the murder of her son.”

    Chandra and Rice said that they are hopeful the Department of Justice will greenlight their request after Attorney General Merrick Garland recently announced a federal probe into police in Louisville who killed Taylor.

    Risher died on July 25, 2016, after he was chased by police outside a Watts housing project. Police say that Risher produced a handgun. LAPD cops fired 64 rounds, according to reports. Simpson said she was encouraged by the Chauvin verdict and the federal probes, and told The Post she is lobbying for the same treatment for her own son.

    “He was shot for running while black,” said Simpson, adding that she started the Richard Risher Foundation to raise funds for her own protests when she said BLM activists failed to help her.

    “They called me an agent provocateur, a liar and crazy,” she said, adding that she would regularly show up at LAPD Commission meetings to demand justice for her son. “I am the boots on the ground in this fight, not Black Lives Matter.”

    Last month, Simpson engaged in another protest — this one at her son’s grave at Inglewood Park Cemetery in Los Angeles on April 29, what would have been Risher’s 23rd birthday.

    “I’m just a mother who lost my kid,” she told The Post. “I haven’t gotten any justice and I don’t even know what that looks like.”


    Source

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    Normally when a group behaves in the manner that BLM has they would be stripped over their 501(c)(3) status (where contributions are tax deductible) and a criminal investigation would be under way. But this is BLM, so don't hold your breath. Holding them accountable for the tens of millions of dollars they've raked in would be .... RACIST


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  • #2
    They are acting like a bunch of rich old white guys.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
      In the past couple of months some folks are starting to realize that all that money given to BLM is not going to help black communities, or to families of those killed in a confrontation with police. And some of them are starting to get angry.

      Source: Mothers criticize BLM activists for profiting off their dead sons


      Grief-stricken mothers who have accused Black Lives Matter of profiting from the deaths of their sons condemned the group’s embattled co-founder Patrisse Cullors after she announced she was stepping down from the movement.

      “I don’t believe she is going anywhere,” Samaria Rice, the mother of a 12-year-old boy shot by Cleveland police while playing with a toy gun, told The Post. “It’s all a facade. She’s only saying that to get the heat off her right now.”

      Lisa Simpson, a Los Angeles-based mother whose son was slain by police in 2016, also blasted Cullors.

      “Now she doesn’t have to show her accountability,” Simpson, 52, told The Post. “She can just take the money and run.”

      Cullors, the executive director of the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, announced on Thursday she was leaving the group a month after The Post reported on her $3.2 million real-estate buying spree and questions about the group’s finances.

      ullors did not respond to a request for comment. She has said her departure had been in the works for a year and was not tied to what she called “right wing attacks that tried to discredit my character.”

      Rice, 44, told The Post she first sought out Cullors to enlist the group’s help in re-opening a federal investigation into her son’s 2014 death. She said she exchanged a few emails with Cullors over the years, but had never managed a face-to-face meeting.

      “They are benefiting off the blood of our loved ones, and they won’t even talk to us,” said Rice, who has also blasted activists Shaun King and Tamika Mallory, whose speech at the Grammy Awards in March called on African Americans to “demand the freedom that this land promises.”

      In March Rice joined with Simpson, the mother of Richard Risher, to blast BLM for, as Simpson put it, “raising money in our dead sons’ names and giving us nothing in return.”

      BLM’s Los Angeles chapter raised $5,000 for her son’s funeral, but Simpson claimed she never received any of it.

      “We never hired them to be the representatives in the fight for justice for our dead loved ones murdered by the police,” said the statement by Rice and Simpson posted March 16 by activist @Free Mumia Abu-Jamal. “The ‘activists’ have events in our cities and have not given us anything substantial for using our loved ones’ images and names on their flyers. We don’t want or need y’all parading in the streets accumulating donations, platforms, movie deals, etc. off the death of our loved ones, while the families and communities are left clueless and broken.”

      Tamika Palmer, the mother of Breonna Taylor, who was shot dead in a police raid at her home in Louisville, KY, said the movement also failed her.

      “I have never personally dealt with BLM Louisville and personally have found them to be fraud (sic),” Palmer wrote in an April 14 Facebook post that was quickly removed. Palmer did not return The Post’s repeated calls.

      In addition to the mothers, BLM Global Network Foundation also faced criticisms from their own members last year. In an open letter, 10 local BLM groups ripped the foundation for what they called a lack of accountability and transparency.

      “To the best of our knowledge, most chapters have received little to no financial support from BLMGN since the launch in 2013,” said the chapters, which included groups from New Jersey and the Hudson Valley.

      A few months later, BLM Global Network Foundation disclosed that it had raised $90 million in donations, fueling even more criticism.

      On Nov. 22, 2014, Tamir Rice was shot dead outside a recreation center while holding a toy gun by white police officer Timothy Loehmann, who was responding to a dispatch about a man with a gun. Last week, a lawyer for Loehmann filed an appeal with the Ohio Supreme Court to get his job back after he was fired in 2017 for providing false information on a job application.

      Tamir’s mom started the Tamir Rice Foundation in 2017 to raise awareness of her son’s death and has been working with Cleveland attorney Subodh Chandra to re-open a federal investigation. The probe into the police officer who shot the youth was started under the Obama administration and shelved last year. “There was political interference and a questionable deal was cut,” Chandra told The Post. “Samaria Rice has been thwarted from having even a shot at due process much less justice for the murder of her son.”

      Chandra and Rice said that they are hopeful the Department of Justice will greenlight their request after Attorney General Merrick Garland recently announced a federal probe into police in Louisville who killed Taylor.

      Risher died on July 25, 2016, after he was chased by police outside a Watts housing project. Police say that Risher produced a handgun. LAPD cops fired 64 rounds, according to reports. Simpson said she was encouraged by the Chauvin verdict and the federal probes, and told The Post she is lobbying for the same treatment for her own son.

      “He was shot for running while black,” said Simpson, adding that she started the Richard Risher Foundation to raise funds for her own protests when she said BLM activists failed to help her.

      “They called me an agent provocateur, a liar and crazy,” she said, adding that she would regularly show up at LAPD Commission meetings to demand justice for her son. “I am the boots on the ground in this fight, not Black Lives Matter.”

      Last month, Simpson engaged in another protest — this one at her son’s grave at Inglewood Park Cemetery in Los Angeles on April 29, what would have been Risher’s 23rd birthday.

      “I’m just a mother who lost my kid,” she told The Post. “I haven’t gotten any justice and I don’t even know what that looks like.”


      Source

      © Copyright Original Source



      Normally when a group behaves in the manner that BLM has they would be stripped over their 501(c)(3) status (where contributions are tax deductible) and a criminal investigation would be under way. But this is BLM, so don't hold your breath. Holding them accountable for the tens of millions of dollars they've raked in would be .... RACIST
      Racist? No. But it would hurt the movement that it represents. Just like reporting heavily on the riots would. Therefore, its better to not look closely.

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      • #4
        Buying nice houses in predominantly white neighborhoods.

        Next question.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          In the past couple of months some folks are starting to realize that all that money given to BLM is not going to help black communities, or to families of those killed in a confrontation with police. And some of them are starting to get angry.

          Source: Mothers criticize BLM activists for profiting off their dead sons


          Grief-stricken mothers who have accused Black Lives Matter of profiting from the deaths of their sons condemned the group’s embattled co-founder Patrisse Cullors after she announced she was stepping down from the movement.

          “I don’t believe she is going anywhere,” Samaria Rice, the mother of a 12-year-old boy shot by Cleveland police while playing with a toy gun, told The Post. “It’s all a facade. She’s only saying that to get the heat off her right now.”

          Lisa Simpson, a Los Angeles-based mother whose son was slain by police in 2016, also blasted Cullors.

          “Now she doesn’t have to show her accountability,” Simpson, 52, told The Post. “She can just take the money and run.”

          Cullors, the executive director of the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, announced on Thursday she was leaving the group a month after The Post reported on her $3.2 million real-estate buying spree and questions about the group’s finances.

          ullors did not respond to a request for comment. She has said her departure had been in the works for a year and was not tied to what she called “right wing attacks that tried to discredit my character.”

          Rice, 44, told The Post she first sought out Cullors to enlist the group’s help in re-opening a federal investigation into her son’s 2014 death. She said she exchanged a few emails with Cullors over the years, but had never managed a face-to-face meeting.

          “They are benefiting off the blood of our loved ones, and they won’t even talk to us,” said Rice, who has also blasted activists Shaun King and Tamika Mallory, whose speech at the Grammy Awards in March called on African Americans to “demand the freedom that this land promises.”

          In March Rice joined with Simpson, the mother of Richard Risher, to blast BLM for, as Simpson put it, “raising money in our dead sons’ names and giving us nothing in return.”

          BLM’s Los Angeles chapter raised $5,000 for her son’s funeral, but Simpson claimed she never received any of it.

          “We never hired them to be the representatives in the fight for justice for our dead loved ones murdered by the police,” said the statement by Rice and Simpson posted March 16 by activist @Free Mumia Abu-Jamal. “The ‘activists’ have events in our cities and have not given us anything substantial for using our loved ones’ images and names on their flyers. We don’t want or need y’all parading in the streets accumulating donations, platforms, movie deals, etc. off the death of our loved ones, while the families and communities are left clueless and broken.”

          Tamika Palmer, the mother of Breonna Taylor, who was shot dead in a police raid at her home in Louisville, KY, said the movement also failed her.

          “I have never personally dealt with BLM Louisville and personally have found them to be fraud (sic),” Palmer wrote in an April 14 Facebook post that was quickly removed. Palmer did not return The Post’s repeated calls.

          In addition to the mothers, BLM Global Network Foundation also faced criticisms from their own members last year. In an open letter, 10 local BLM groups ripped the foundation for what they called a lack of accountability and transparency.

          “To the best of our knowledge, most chapters have received little to no financial support from BLMGN since the launch in 2013,” said the chapters, which included groups from New Jersey and the Hudson Valley.

          A few months later, BLM Global Network Foundation disclosed that it had raised $90 million in donations, fueling even more criticism.

          On Nov. 22, 2014, Tamir Rice was shot dead outside a recreation center while holding a toy gun by white police officer Timothy Loehmann, who was responding to a dispatch about a man with a gun. Last week, a lawyer for Loehmann filed an appeal with the Ohio Supreme Court to get his job back after he was fired in 2017 for providing false information on a job application.

          Tamir’s mom started the Tamir Rice Foundation in 2017 to raise awareness of her son’s death and has been working with Cleveland attorney Subodh Chandra to re-open a federal investigation. The probe into the police officer who shot the youth was started under the Obama administration and shelved last year. “There was political interference and a questionable deal was cut,” Chandra told The Post. “Samaria Rice has been thwarted from having even a shot at due process much less justice for the murder of her son.”

          Chandra and Rice said that they are hopeful the Department of Justice will greenlight their request after Attorney General Merrick Garland recently announced a federal probe into police in Louisville who killed Taylor.

          Risher died on July 25, 2016, after he was chased by police outside a Watts housing project. Police say that Risher produced a handgun. LAPD cops fired 64 rounds, according to reports. Simpson said she was encouraged by the Chauvin verdict and the federal probes, and told The Post she is lobbying for the same treatment for her own son.

          “He was shot for running while black,” said Simpson, adding that she started the Richard Risher Foundation to raise funds for her own protests when she said BLM activists failed to help her.

          “They called me an agent provocateur, a liar and crazy,” she said, adding that she would regularly show up at LAPD Commission meetings to demand justice for her son. “I am the boots on the ground in this fight, not Black Lives Matter.”

          Last month, Simpson engaged in another protest — this one at her son’s grave at Inglewood Park Cemetery in Los Angeles on April 29, what would have been Risher’s 23rd birthday.

          “I’m just a mother who lost my kid,” she told The Post. “I haven’t gotten any justice and I don’t even know what that looks like.”


          Source

          © Copyright Original Source



          Normally when a group behaves in the manner that BLM has they would be stripped over their 501(c)(3) status (where contributions are tax deductible) and a criminal investigation would be under way. But this is BLM, so don't hold your breath. Holding them accountable for the tens of millions of dollars they've raked in would be .... RACIST
          I got to hand it to them, it's a heck of a racket. The perfect heist. It uses feelings and emotion to shake down gullible leftists, then uses the race card as cover.

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          • #6
            Hey, now, those multi-million dollar mansions aren't going to buy themselves, you know.
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • #7
              What is the NRA doing with all the money people donate to it?
              What is the Trump campaign doing with all the money people donate to it?

              It's interesting to see how excited right-wingers get when a left wing group engages in a small fraction of the scams that those on the right do routinely.
              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                What is the NRA doing with all the money people donate to it?
                What is the Trump campaign doing with all the money people donate to it?

                It's interesting to see how excited right-wingers get when a left wing group engages in a small fraction of the scams that those on the right do routinely.
                Aren't you supposed to prove something is a scam before calling it a scam and using it as some kind of lame whataboutism gotcha?

                For example, we know this racket is clearly a scam and was proven as such, that's how you call something a scam.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  What is the NRA doing with all the money people donate to it?
                  What is the Trump campaign doing with all the money people donate to it?

                  It's interesting to see how excited right-wingers get when a left wing group engages in a small fraction of the scams that those on the right do routinely.
                  So, you agree its a scam, but its ok because, notasbadism.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    What is the NRA doing with all the money people donate to it?
                    What is the Trump campaign doing with all the money people donate to it?

                    It's interesting to see how excited right-wingers get when a left wing group engages in a small fraction of the scams that those on the right do routinely.
                    I don't recall the NRA ever even giving the impression they would be helping certain communities and families and then utterly abandon them, but I could be wrong

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #11
                      Mothers of Tamir Rice, Breonna Taylor Criticize Black Lives Matter

                      The mothers of several people whose names have been invoked by Black Lives Matter activists panned the group’s co-founder, Patrisse Cullors, for benefitting “off the blood” of their family members.

                      Cullors announced last week that she would be departing the organization, coming after reports disclosed her finances and real estate holdings.

                      “They are benefiting off the blood of our loved ones, and they won’t even talk to us,” Samaria Rice, the mother of a 12-year-old boy, Tamir Rice, who was shot by police in Cleveland, told the New York Post.

                      Rice added that she contacted Black Lives Matter to help in re-opening a federal investigation into her son’s death in 2014, exchanging several emails with Cullors years ago before nothing came of it.

                      “I don’t believe she is going anywhere,” Rice said of the BLM co-founder. “It’s all a facade,” she continued. “She’s only saying that to get the heat off her right now.”

                      Lisa Simpson, whose son was also killed in a Los Angeles Police Department officer-involved incident in 2016, also criticized the organization’s co-founder.

                      “Now she doesn’t have to show her accountability,” Simpson, 52, told the newspaper in reference to Cullors’ move to leave the organization. “She can just take the money and run.”
                      It sort of sounds like they're turning on each other because they all think they're not getting a cut of the pie. I guess that's what happens when you put your trust in an divisive sociopolitical organization based on lies.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by seanD View Post
                        Mothers of Tamir Rice, Breonna Taylor Criticize Black Lives Matter



                        It sort of sounds like they're turning on each other because they all think they're not getting a cut of the pie. I guess that's what happens when you put your trust in an divisive sociopolitical organization based on lies.
                        With all that money in the pot, someone is going to complain about not getting their "fair share".
                        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                        Than a fool in the eyes of God


                        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by seanD View Post
                          Mothers of Tamir Rice, Breonna Taylor Criticize Black Lives Matter



                          It sort of sounds like they're turning on each other because they all think they're not getting a cut of the pie. I guess that's what happens when you put your trust in an divisive sociopolitical organization based on lies.
                          They raised the money based on claims of helping troubled communities and families who lost loved ones in confrontations with the police so it really is no wonder that those who were used as the basis for raising money, and had been promised help, are getting a little upset as they see BLM bank accounts swell and BLM leaders buying up mansions (although apparently with money from "book deals" and the like) while they haven't seen one thin dime.

                          But then Marxist groups have a history of doing that sort of thing so what did they really expect?

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            But then Marxist groups have a history of doing that sort of thing so what did they really expect?
                            Marxist elites always seem to harbor the notion of "I worked for this money, so why shouldn't I enjoy it?" which is strange because it is in direct opposition to Marxist ideology.
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                              Marxist elites always seem to harbor the notion of "I worked for this money, so why shouldn't I enjoy it?" which is strange because it is in direct opposition to Marxist ideology.
                              They also appear to believe in the notion of "You worked for this money, so why shouldn't I enjoy it?"

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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