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    Source: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/matt-maddock-fact-checker-bill_n_609bd1ede4b0daf2b59b85cc?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_conversation&spot_im_redirect_source=notifications&spot_im_comment_id=sp_NnUPB5wj_609bd1ede4b0daf2b59b85cc_c_1sRol1j9n3pFyKLiTitsQdy9LNn&spot_im_highlight_immediate=true

    A Michigan state representative who has repeatedly promoted former President Donald Trump’s lies about the 2020 election introduced a bill on Tuesday that would require “fact checkers” to register with the state.
    ...
    The bill, called the Fact Checker Registration Act, would require “certain fact checkers” to register with Michigan’s secretary of state and insure themselves with $1 million fidelity bonds.

    If the bill were enacted into law, a person would be able to sue a “fact checker” for “any wrongful conduct that is a violation” of Michigan state laws. A person who violated the act would be subject to a $1,000 fine per day for each day the violation continued, according to the bill.

    Under Maddock’s proposal, a “fact checker” is defined as someone who is paid by a national or international fact-checking organization, is a member of the “International Fact Check Network,” publishes content in Michigan and presents themselves to the public as a fact-checker. (Maddock confirmed Wednesday that “International Fact Check Network” is meant to refer to the International Fact-Checking Network, a Poynter Institute initiative that connects fact-checkers working at media organizations across the world.)

    ...

    “I don’t think anyone knows how many fact checkers are doing business in Michigan but we will find out!” Maddock wrote in a text message to HuffPost.

    He said he wrote the bill because he feels “people and businesses are being unfairly targeted and deplatformed and cancelled because fact checkers deem them ‘false.’”

    “But is there any accountability when a fact checker gets it wrong?” Maddock said. “There isn’t. Sloppy fact checkers like Snopes destroy lives, destroy business, destroy politicians and there is no penalty when they get it wrong.”

    ...

    Democrats criticized the bill, which has garnered at least eight co-sponsors so far. Michigan state Sen. Jeremy Moss (D) said the proposal runs counter to protections established by the country’s founders, which guarantee the press can operate without government intrusion.

    “This is an affront to the First Amendment,” Moss told The Detroit News.

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    Obviously, no right, such as free press, is absolute. These are reasonable restrictions on a press that now has access to technology far beyond what the founders could've ever imagined. The first amendment was never designed to handle this technology, nor the implications it can have on everyday life.

  • #2
    Not sure what you did with the formatting, but that post is trailing off the side of where it is supposed to be limited to. Much of it is illegible due to this.

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    • #3
      How bout this...

      Michigan Lawmaker Who Promoted Election Lies Wants To Register, Fine ‘Fact Checkers’

      "Neighbor, how long has it been since youíve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?Ē

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      • #4
        Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
        Source: Huffpost[URL="https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump"

        President Donald Trump[/URL]’s lies about the 2020 election introduced a bill on Tuesday that would require “fact checkers” to register with the state.
        ...
        The bill, called the Fact Checker Registration Act, would require “certain fact checkers” to register with Michigan’s secretary of state and insure themselves with $1 million fidelity bonds.

        If the bill were enacted into law, a person would be able to sue a “fact checker” for “any wrongful conduct that is a violation” of Michigan state laws. A person who violated the act would be subject to a $1,000 fine per day for each day the violation continued, according to the bill.

        Under Maddock’s proposal, a “fact checker” is defined as someone who is paid by a national or international fact-checking organization, is a member of the “International Fact Check Network,” publishes content in Michigan and presents themselves to the public as a fact-checker. (Maddock confirmed Wednesday that “International Fact Check Network” is meant to refer to the International Fact-Checking Network, a Poynter Institute initiative that connects fact-checkers working at media organizations across the world.)

        ...

        “I don’t think anyone knows how many fact checkers are doing business in Michigan but we will find out!” Maddock wrote in a text message to HuffPost.

        He said he wrote the bill because he feels “people and businesses are being unfairly targeted and deplatformed and cancelled because fact checkers deem them ‘false.’”

        “But is there any accountability when a fact checker gets it wrong?” Maddock said. “There isn’t. Sloppy fact checkers like Snopes destroy lives, destroy business, destroy politicians and there is no penalty when they get it wrong.”

        ...

        Democrats criticized the bill, which has garnered at least eight co-sponsors so far. Michigan state Sen. Jeremy Moss (D) said the proposal runs counter to protections established by the country’s founders, which guarantee the press can operate without government intrusion.

        “This is an affront to the First Amendment,” Moss told The Detroit News.

        © Copyright Original Source



        Obviously, no right, such as free press, is absolute. These are reasonable restrictions on a press that now has access to technology far beyond what the founders could've ever imagined. The first amendment was never designed to handle this technology, nor the implications it can have on everyday life.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View Post
          Not sure what you did with the formatting, but that post is trailing off the side of where it is supposed to be limited to. Much of it is illegible due to this.
          Look at the post right above this. Looks like it was an issue with theURL in the CITE flags. Too late to edit though.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

            Look at the post right above this. Looks like it was an issue with theURL in the CITE flags. Too late to edit though.
            Thanks!

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            • #7
              No government should ever be given this authority.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #8
                Orwellian.
                "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                • #9
                  "What is truth?" - Pontius Pilate
                  "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

                  "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                    Source: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/matt-maddock-fact-checker-bill_n_609bd1ede4b0daf2b59b85cc?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_conversation&spot_im_redirect_source=notifications&spot_im_comment_id=sp_NnUPB5wj_609bd1ede4b0daf2b59b85cc_c_1sRol1j9n3pFyKLiTitsQdy9LNn&spot_im_highlight_immediate=true

                    A Michigan state representative who has repeatedly promoted former President Donald Trump’s lies about the 2020 election introduced a bill on Tuesday that would require “fact checkers” to register with the state.
                    ...
                    The bill, called the Fact Checker Registration Act, would require “certain fact checkers” to register with Michigan’s secretary of state and insure themselves with $1 million fidelity bonds.

                    If the bill were enacted into law, a person would be able to sue a “fact checker” for “any wrongful conduct that is a violation” of Michigan state laws. A person who violated the act would be subject to a $1,000 fine per day for each day the violation continued, according to the bill.

                    Under Maddock’s proposal, a “fact checker” is defined as someone who is paid by a national or international fact-checking organization, is a member of the “International Fact Check Network,” publishes content in Michigan and presents themselves to the public as a fact-checker. (Maddock confirmed Wednesday that “International Fact Check Network” is meant to refer to the International Fact-Checking Network, a Poynter Institute initiative that connects fact-checkers working at media organizations across the world.)

                    ...

                    “I don’t think anyone knows how many fact checkers are doing business in Michigan but we will find out!” Maddock wrote in a text message to HuffPost.

                    He said he wrote the bill because he feels “people and businesses are being unfairly targeted and deplatformed and cancelled because fact checkers deem them ‘false.’”

                    “But is there any accountability when a fact checker gets it wrong?” Maddock said. “There isn’t. Sloppy fact checkers like Snopes destroy lives, destroy business, destroy politicians and there is no penalty when they get it wrong.”

                    ...

                    Democrats criticized the bill, which has garnered at least eight co-sponsors so far. Michigan state Sen. Jeremy Moss (D) said the proposal runs counter to protections established by the country’s founders, which guarantee the press can operate without government intrusion.

                    “This is an affront to the First Amendment,” Moss told The Detroit News.

                    © Copyright Original Source



                    Obviously, no right, such as free press, is absolute. These are reasonable restrictions on a press that now has access to technology far beyond what the founders could've ever imagined. The first amendment was never designed to handle this technology, nor the implications it can have on everyday life.
                    The war just keeps brewing.
                    "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by seanD View Post

                      The war just keeps brewing.
                      If so then this was a definite misfire.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        If so then this was a definite misfire.
                        It seems there is no right solution to this problem. What do you do with the naive and gullible masses that believe they have to do no extra research to figure things out themselves and that the "fact-checkers" are bastions of truth?
                        "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by seanD View Post

                          It seems there is no right solution to this problem. What do you do with the naive and gullible masses that believe they have to do no extra research to figure things out themselves and that the "fact-checkers" are bastions of truth?
                          Someone likely much wiser than I once opined

                          You can't fix stupid



                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by seanD View Post

                            It seems there is no right solution to this problem. What do you do with the naive and gullible masses that believe they have to do no extra research to figure things out themselves and that the "fact-checkers" are bastions of truth?
                            Sure there is. Do nothing. Enforce existing libel and slander laws if it comes to that.
                            "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post

                              Sure there is. Do nothing. Enforce existing libel and slander laws if it comes to that.
                              The "fact-checkers" have become adept at spreading misinformation in such a subtle way, that legal actions would be very difficult, but I agree. In fact, it would seem that this might make the problem they're trying to solve even worse, because now the so-called 'fact-checkers" can continue to propagate misinformation with the stamp of approval by the state.
                              "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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