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  • CivilDiscourse
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    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    That would be the only way such a law could possibly have "teeth."
    As I said, it's (to me) an obvious unconstitutional law to compel speech. If someone refuses, stripping them of tax breaks because of it, would probably still end up breaking the 1st. Just because the government does not HAVE to let you have something (such as a tax break), it's still unconstitutional to strip that as a means of compelling speech.

    So, if someone wanted to do this, they'd essentially have to do it with a wink and a nudge over some other reason.

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by seer View Post

    If religion or national identity does not bind a peoples what does?
    bacon.

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

    So long as nobody is dumb enough to actually tie the stripping of the protections to the refusal...
    That would be the only way such a law could possibly have "teeth."

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  • seer
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    Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
    A Wisconsin bill to require the national anthem to be played before all sporting events at fields and stadiums that received public funding passed in the state Assembly in a 74-22 vote Tuesday, with strong bipartisan support.
    If religion or national identity does not bind a peoples what does?

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  • CivilDiscourse
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    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Nobody should be compelled, but I suspect if they refuse they'll be stripped of some very questionable tax protections and the like, which I would not be opposed to.
    So long as nobody is dumb enough to actually tie the stripping of the protections to the refusal...

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  • KingsGambit
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    My stance on the national anthem/pledge is well covered on here so just suffice it to say I agree it's a terrible bill. Even that aside, it's kind of dumb if you think about it to arbitrarily demand the national anthem be played before a sports event. My office doesn't require us to stand for the anthem before we go in the morning. You don't have to stand for it when you go to the dentist. Why here?

    But as has been mentioned, public funding of stadiums is equally questionable.

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  • rogue06
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    Nobody should be compelled, but I suspect if they refuse they'll be stripped of some very questionable tax protections and the like, which I would not be opposed to.

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  • CivilDiscourse
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    Wisconsin Virtue Signaling Bill

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/wisconsin...ts-events-bill

    A Wisconsin bill to require the national anthem to be played before all sporting events at fields and stadiums that received public funding passed in the state Assembly in a 74-22 vote Tuesday, with strong bipartisan support.

    Such sites include major, taxpayer-subsidized venues where the Packers, Bucks and Brewers play, as well as public schools and other facilities that were built or upgraded with taxpayer funds.


    This screams blatant unconstitutional compelling of speech. It doesn't matter if the venues were built/upgraded with taxpayer funds. You can't use that as an excuse to suddenly try and tie strings after the fact to the money.

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