Is Israel practising a form of apartheid?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

The Associated Press is not a credible news organization.

A fault found in many other widely read/watched news organisations. Your point?

[Mountain Man]

A fault found in many other widely read/watched news organisations. Your point?

Sorry, babe, I'm not interested in explaining the obvious.

[rogue06]

BTW, bombing a media office is a war crime.

And AP is calling baloney on Israel's claims and demanding an independent investigation (smart - only an idiot would take Israel's word for it, given their many lies in the past, including their lies around the murder of our own US Sailors).

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-top-ed...163811444.html

It's pretty clear in my mind this was Israel's attempt to cripple reporting on their atrocities in Palestine.

Then again...

Source: Israel showed US ‘smoking gun’ on Hamas in AP office tower, officials say

"We showed them the smoking gun proving Hamas worked out of that building," a senior diplomatic source said. "I understand they found the explanation satisfactory."

Israel shared intelligence with the US showing how Hamas operated inside the same building with the Associated Press and Al-Jazeera in Gaza, officials in Jerusalem said on Sunday.

Officials in more than one government office confirmed that US President Joe Biden’s phone call to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Saturday was, in part, about the bombing of the building, and that Israel showed Biden and American officials the intelligence behind the action.

"We showed them the smoking gun proving Hamas worked out of that building," a senior diplomatic source said. "I understand they found the explanation satisfactory."

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed the source’s remark, when asked about The Jerusalem Post’s reporting in an interview with US TV show Face the Nation.

"We share all the intelligence with our American friends," he said. "The intelligence we had is about an intelligence office for [Hamas] housed in that building that plots and organizes terrorist attacks on Israeli civilians. It is a perfectly legit target."

Netanyahu also remarked that there were "no deaths whatsoever" from the strike on the building, because of measures Israel takes to avoid harming civilians, including giving an advance warning.

Another senior Israeli official admitted that the fact that the bombing took place two days after a tweet by the IDF misled some foreign media into reporting that ground troops had entered Gaza made the situation more difficult from a public diplomacy perspective.

A Foreign Ministry spokesman said the ministry briefed thousands of journalists on the matter in the past day, including a joint briefing with the IDF and police spokespeople for foreign media on Saturday night.

But in government-to-government diplomacy, Israeli officials felt that the situation was still good.

The US was the only country to inquire about the IDF strike on the building, which the military said housed Hamas military intelligence offices, as well as AP and Al Jazeera, other news outlets, and other offices and apartments.

"From an analysis the Foreign Ministry did [on Sunday], 80% of the 90 countries we spoke to in recent days released official statements supporting Israel’s right to defend itself. They aren’t calling to stop the operation," a ministry source said.

Ashkenazi also spoke to over 30 foreign ministers around the world.

"We’re still in a positive place when it comes to our legitimacy to act," the Foreign Ministry source added. "There is very clear support for the Israeli stance that the terrorism crossed a line."

The IAF struck the 12-story tower in Gaza on Saturday, giving a warning an hour in advance.

"The building housed the offices of civilian media, which the terrorist organization Hamas hides behind and uses as human shields," the IDF said in a statement. "The terror organization Hamas deliberately places its military assets in the heart of the civilian population in the Gaza Strip. Prior to the attack, the IDF warned the civilians who were in the building and gave them sufficient time to evacuate."

After Operation Protective Edge in 2014, former AP reporter Matti Friedman wrote in The Atlantic: "Hamas understood that reporters could be intimidated when necessary and that they would not report the intimidation... The AP staff in Gaza City would witness a rocket launch right beside their office, endangering reporters and other civilians nearby – and the AP wouldn't report it, not even in AP articles about Israeli claims that Hamas was launching rockets from residential areas."

In light of the attack on the building in Gaza, Secretary of State Antony Blinken expressed his "unwavering support" to Associated Press president and CEO Garry Pruitt on Saturday, noting the "indispensability of their reporting in conflict zones."

The AP and Al Jazeera condemned the airstrike in strong terms.

Pruitt called the strike "an incredibly disturbing development." He said a dozen AP journalists and freelancers had been in the building, but were evacuated in time.

"We are shocked and horrified that the Israeli military would target and destroy the building housing AP’s bureau and other news organizations in Gaza," he said. "The world will know less about what is happening in Gaza because of what happened today."

The acting director-general of the Qatar-based Al Jazeera Media Network, Dr. Mostefa Souag, called the strike "barbaric" and said Israel should be held accountable.

“The aim of this heinous crime is to silence the media and to hide the untold carnage and suffering of the people of Gaza," he said in a statement.

The spokesman for the IDF's International Media Branch, Lt.-Col. Jonathan Conricus, rejected the notion that Israel was seeking to silence the media. "That is totally false – the media is not the target," he told Reuters.


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Get warned that you're staying in a building housing a Hamas base.

Ignore it and stay anyways.

Get warning that the building is slated to be attacked in a few hours.

Ignore it and stay anyways.

Building is attacked.

Act shocked and outraged that the building that you insisted on staying in was attacked just like you were told it would be.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Sorry, babe,.

Ooh are you flirting with me?

[rogue06]

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Apparently you haven't seen the videos of the night sky lit up with rockets and missiles launched by Hamas to think this.

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Incoming from Gaza



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Hamas launch on left and Israel anti-missile defense respond on right

Tell me again how Hamas launches a rocket and Israel overreacts

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A more honest portrayal of events

[Gondwanaland]

The Associated Press is not a credible news organization.

But a 2014 piece from the Atlantic written by a reporter in the region detailed a long and questionable history between the AP and the jihadist group, critics observed.

"When Hamas’s leaders surveyed their assets before this summer’s round of fighting, they knew that among those assets was the international press. The AP staff in Gaza City would witness a rocket launch right beside their office, endangering reporters and other civilians nearby—and the AP wouldn’t report it," the article reads.

The journalist at the time claimed that Hamas fighters would regularly "burst into the AP’s Gaza bureau and threaten the staff—and the AP wouldn’t report it."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/ap-tor...ficult-believe

Israel is not a credible source. *shrug*

[Gondwanaland]

Then again...

Source: Israel showed US ‘smoking gun’ on Hamas in AP office tower, officials say

"We showed them the smoking gun proving Hamas worked out of that building," a senior diplomatic source said. "I understand they found the explanation satisfactory."

Israel shared intelligence with the US showing how Hamas operated inside the same building with the Associated Press and Al-Jazeera in Gaza, officials in Jerusalem said on Sunday.

Officials in more than one government office confirmed that US President Joe Biden’s phone call to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Saturday was, in part, about the bombing of the building, and that Israel showed Biden and American officials the intelligence behind the action.

"We showed them the smoking gun proving Hamas worked out of that building," a senior diplomatic source said. "I understand they found the explanation satisfactory."

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed the source’s remark, when asked about The Jerusalem Post’s reporting in an interview with US TV show Face the Nation.

"We share all the intelligence with our American friends," he said. "The intelligence we had is about an intelligence office for [Hamas] housed in that building that plots and organizes terrorist attacks on Israeli civilians. It is a perfectly legit target."

Netanyahu also remarked that there were "no deaths whatsoever" from the strike on the building, because of measures Israel takes to avoid harming civilians, including giving an advance warning.

Another senior Israeli official admitted that the fact that the bombing took place two days after a tweet by the IDF misled some foreign media into reporting that ground troops had entered Gaza made the situation more difficult from a public diplomacy perspective.

A Foreign Ministry spokesman said the ministry briefed thousands of journalists on the matter in the past day, including a joint briefing with the IDF and police spokespeople for foreign media on Saturday night.

But in government-to-government diplomacy, Israeli officials felt that the situation was still good.

The US was the only country to inquire about the IDF strike on the building, which the military said housed Hamas military intelligence offices, as well as AP and Al Jazeera, other news outlets, and other offices and apartments.

"From an analysis the Foreign Ministry did [on Sunday], 80% of the 90 countries we spoke to in recent days released official statements supporting Israel’s right to defend itself. They aren’t calling to stop the operation," a ministry source said.

Ashkenazi also spoke to over 30 foreign ministers around the world.

"We’re still in a positive place when it comes to our legitimacy to act," the Foreign Ministry source added. "There is very clear support for the Israeli stance that the terrorism crossed a line."

The IAF struck the 12-story tower in Gaza on Saturday, giving a warning an hour in advance.

"The building housed the offices of civilian media, which the terrorist organization Hamas hides behind and uses as human shields," the IDF said in a statement. "The terror organization Hamas deliberately places its military assets in the heart of the civilian population in the Gaza Strip. Prior to the attack, the IDF warned the civilians who were in the building and gave them sufficient time to evacuate."

After Operation Protective Edge in 2014, former AP reporter Matti Friedman wrote in The Atlantic: "Hamas understood that reporters could be intimidated when necessary and that they would not report the intimidation... The AP staff in Gaza City would witness a rocket launch right beside their office, endangering reporters and other civilians nearby – and the AP wouldn't report it, not even in AP articles about Israeli claims that Hamas was launching rockets from residential areas."

In light of the attack on the building in Gaza, Secretary of State Antony Blinken expressed his "unwavering support" to Associated Press president and CEO Garry Pruitt on Saturday, noting the "indispensability of their reporting in conflict zones."

The AP and Al Jazeera condemned the airstrike in strong terms.

Pruitt called the strike "an incredibly disturbing development." He said a dozen AP journalists and freelancers had been in the building, but were evacuated in time.

"We are shocked and horrified that the Israeli military would target and destroy the building housing AP’s bureau and other news organizations in Gaza," he said. "The world will know less about what is happening in Gaza because of what happened today."

The acting director-general of the Qatar-based Al Jazeera Media Network, Dr. Mostefa Souag, called the strike "barbaric" and said Israel should be held accountable.

“The aim of this heinous crime is to silence the media and to hide the untold carnage and suffering of the people of Gaza," he said in a statement.

The spokesman for the IDF's International Media Branch, Lt.-Col. Jonathan Conricus, rejected the notion that Israel was seeking to silence the media. "That is totally false – the media is not the target," he told Reuters.


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Get warned that you're staying in a building housing a Hamas base.

Ignore it and stay anyways.

Get warning that the building is slated to be attacked in a few hours.

Ignore it and stay anyways.

Building is attacked.

Act shocked and outraged that the building that you insisted on staying in was attacked just like you were told it would be.

Yeah, I remember what the US's idea of 'credible evidence' is (yellowcake uranium in Iraq, anyone?), so you'll forgive me if I don't accept this evidenceless claim. Especially when that evidence is coming from Israel (which has a history of lying and making things up - like when they murdered our sailors) and when Biden is one of their top recipients of moolah.

[Gondwanaland]

Apparently you haven't seen the videos of the night sky lit up with rockets and missiles launched by Hamas to think this.

maxresdefault.jpg
Incoming from Gaza



israel-scaled.jpg
Hamas launch on left and Israel anti-missile defense respond on right

Tell me again how Hamas launches a rocket and Israel overreacts

8carox89eaz61.jpg
A more honest portrayal of events

Ahem:
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Yes, I'm sure it's so scary when Hamas launches their improvised firecrackers. Much scarier than Israel literally leveling entire blocks of Palestine, murdering and injuring countless civilians.

[Mountain Man]

Ooh are you flirting with me?

Not at all, just putting you in your place.

[Mountain Man]

Israel is not a credible source. *shrug*

So you're not even going to own up to the fact that the Associated Press knew for years that they were sharing a building with Hamas military, and that their reporting has been slanted in favor of Palestine and against Israel for decades?

It's like you want to point the finger at Israel and yell, "Guilty! Guilty! Guilty!" while ignoring all evidence to the contrary.

[Mountain Man]

Ahem:
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Yes, I'm sure it's so scary when Hamas launches their improvised firecrackers. Much scarier than Israel literally leveling entire blocks of Palestine, murdering and injuring countless civilians.

What is the source for those numbers?

[seer]

Israel is not a credible source. *shrug*

If Hamas didn't start firing missiles into Israel would any of this be happening? And it is no wonder they do not want to give more land over to Arabs - just look what happened when they got out of Gaza....

[CivilDiscourse]

What is the source for those numbers?

Per the image: United Nations

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Maybe we should give the Jews New Jersey. Nobody would miss it....

Israel has a right to exist. However, it does not have the right to destroy and/or occupy other people's [i.e. Palestinians] homes and land. Nor is the incident in Sheikh Jarrah to do with the pre 1948 owners asking for these evictions. Those individuals sold their rights to a Settle NGO and these are not an isolated case. There are tens of thousands of Palestinian properties on the west side of Jerusalem who wan their property returned to them but they are unlikely to succeed in getting a ruling in their favour from the Supreme Court.

Just imagine how you might feel if you came home to find your house was in the process of being bulldozed and your personal possessions had been destroyed.

Or that while you were out soldiers had come into your home and defecated in your cooking utensils.

Warning to the easily offended : The rest of the link uses some "Anglo Saxon" language


From Breaking the Silence website. https://www.breakingthesilence.org.i...atabase/606607

Everyone – from the commander all the way down – took dumps in pots

I’m thinking about that poor family whose rooftop was turned into a public bathroom by the entire company, what an awful thing.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

If Hamas didn't start firing missiles into Israel would any of this be happening? And it is no wonder they do not want to give more land over to Arabs - just look what happened when they got out of Gaza....

If Israel had not driven out Palestinians from their homes and land would any of this ever have started?.

I am reluctant to use the term but Living Space and the Slavs does come to mind.