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  • Israel and Hamas exchanging missiles

    Anyone watching this? It looks bad.

    I am impressed with the Israeli's antimissile technology. They have been showing incoming missiles being blown out of the sky as they come in. Looks like Missile Command. Hamas is sending hundreds of missiles. I think about 1/3 are getting through.




    Last edited by Sparko; 05-11-2021, 03:16 PM.


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    The Iron Dome is no joke. It has saved scores of lives.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
      The Iron Dome is no joke. It has saved scores of lives.
      They all mocked Reagan when he started up "Star Wars" - looks like it paid off.

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      • #4
        The Arab world is testing Biden's handlers.
        "Neighbor, how long has it been since youíve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?Ē

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        • #5
          It's moving fairly quickly to all-out war.

          "Neighbor, how long has it been since youíve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?Ē

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          • #6
            The Arab countries need to go to their rooms and stay till they behave! Why are they acting like Europe was before they stopped fighting each other? Why can't they turn their swords into plowshares?
            If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
              The Arab countries need to go to their rooms and stay till they behave! Why are they acting like Europe was before they stopped fighting each other? Why can't they turn their swords into plowshares?
              Well how would you feel if you were turned out of your home by a group of people who claimed a right to your property and land and premised that right on some ancient religious texts?

              Israel has never defined its border and it does not incorporate certain land into its own state thereby according the occupants the same rights as Israeli citizens, it "occupies" certain [primarily Palestinian] areas.

              The whole history of the region since 1945 is far from simple and there are no goodies and baddies.
              "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                The Iron Dome is no joke. It has saved scores of lives.
                It helps that most of the rockets (not missiles) being fired use technology from the 50s.

                I'm always still in trouble again

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                  The Arab countries need to go to their rooms and stay till they behave! Why are they acting like Europe was before they stopped fighting each other? Why can't they turn their swords into plowshares?
                  The conflict goes back thousands of years (you can find the roots of it in the Old Testament), and it's unlikely to end before Jesus returns.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                    Well how would you feel if you were turned out of your home by a group of people who claimed a right to your property and land and premised that right on some ancient religious texts?

                    Israel has never defined its border and it does not incorporate certain land into its own state thereby according the occupants the same rights as Israeli citizens, it "occupies" certain [primarily Palestinian] areas.
                    Given that the region was repeatedly described as being nearly desolate prior to the Jews moving back I don't think very many of those there now can claim they were turned out of their homes.

                    And Israel has only occupied lands after the Arabs have declared war and attacked. There is a lesson to be learned there.

                    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                    The whole history of the region since 1945 is far from simple and there are no goodies and baddies.
                    One side issues multiple warnings telling the other side exactly where they're going to strike and perhaps even when so as to minimize casualties among innocent civilians

                    The other side does the exact opposite -- and are even known for surrounding themselves with civilians when they know attack is imminent

                    While there are a dearth of angels in this war, one side is clearly worse than the other.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                      Well how would you feel if you were turned out of your home by a group of people who claimed a right to your property and land and premised that right on some ancient religious texts?

                      Israel has never defined its border and it does not incorporate certain land into its own state thereby according the occupants the same rights as Israeli citizens, it "occupies" certain [primarily Palestinian] areas.

                      The whole history of the region since 1945 is far from simple and there are no goodies and baddies.
                      The Palestinians were not natives to the area either. The Jews were there before them, as even the architecture of the region proves (for example, the Dome of the Rock is built on the ruins of the Jewish Temple). And Israel has tried and tried to make the region home to everyone who wants to live in peace. The Arabs won't have it.

                      If this does turn into an all out war, my money is on Israel. Every time the Arabs take it too far, Israel kicks their butts.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                        The Palestinians were not natives to the area either. The Jews were there before them, as even the architecture of the region proves (for example, the Dome of the Rock is built on the ruins of the Jewish Temple). And Israel has tried and tried to make the region home to everyone who wants to live in peace. The Arabs won't have it.

                        If this does turn into an all out war, my money is on Israel. Every time the Arabs take it too far, Israel kicks their butts.
                        Given how many of them were making peace with Israel, thanks to Trump in a deal that explicitly left the Palestinians out of it (one of the main whines by the left which seeks to minimize these historic agreements), I'm not sure just how much Arab support the Palestinians will receive. Most of it is likely coming from Iran.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                          The conflict goes back thousands of years (you can find the roots of it in the Old Testament), and it's unlikely to end before Jesus returns.
                          No it doesn't. Your knowledge of the history of the ancient near east is somewhat tenuous.
                          "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            Given how many of them were making peace with Israel, thanks to Trump in a deal that explicitly left the Palestinians out of it (one of the main whines by the left which seeks to minimize these historic agreements), I'm not sure just how much Arab support the Palestinians will receive. Most of it is likely coming from Iran.
                            I was pretty much generalizing in my use of "Arabs" to all non Israeli people's in the region.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Given that the region was repeatedly described as being nearly desolate prior to the Jews moving back I don't think very many of those there now can claim they were turned out of their homes.
                              What period in history are you referencing by that generalisation?

                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              And Israel has only occupied lands after the Arabs have declared war and attacked. There is a lesson to be learned there.
                              And from whence did you obtain that information?

                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              One side issues multiple warnings telling the other side exactly where they're going to strike and perhaps even when so as to minimize casualties among innocent civilians

                              The other side does the exact opposite -- and are even known for surrounding themselves with civilians when they know attack is imminent

                              While there are a dearth of angels in this war, one side is clearly worse than the other.
                              I detect a distinct whiff of partisanship.
                              "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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