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  • If democrats are so much better at the economy...

    Why do the blue states have so much higher Unemployment rates?
    https://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm
    State Unemployment Rate Rank Legislature Control
    Hawaii 9 51 B
    New York 8.5 50 B
    California 8.3 47 B
    Connecticut 8.3 47 B
    New Mexico 8.3 47 B
    Nevada 8.1 46 B
    District of Columbia 7.8 45 B
    New Jersey 7.7 44 B
    Louisiana 7.3 42 R
    Pennsylvania 7.3 42 R
    Illinois 7.1 40 B
    Rhode Island 7.1 40 B
    Texas 6.9 39 R
    Massachusetts 6.8 38 B
    Arizona 6.7 37 R
    Alaska 6.6 36 R
    Delaware 6.5 35 B
    Colorado 6.4 34 B
    Mississippi 6.3 33 R
    Maryland 6.2 32 B
    Oregon 6 31 B
    West Virginia 5.9 30 R
    Washington 5.4 29 B
    Wyoming 5.3 28 R
    North Carolina 5.2 27 R
    Michigan 5.1 24 R
    South Carolina 5.1 24 R
    Virginia 5.1 24 B
    Kentucky 5 22 R
    Tennessee 5 22 R
    Maine 4.8 21 N
    Florida 4.7 19 R
    Ohio 4.7 19 R
    Georgia 4.5 18 R
    Arkansas 4.4 16 R
    North Dakota 4.4 16 R
    Minnesota 4.2 13 S
    Missouri 4.2 13 R
    Oklahoma 4.2 13 R
    Indiana 3.9 12 R
    Alabama 3.8 9 R
    Montana 3.8 9 R
    Wisconsin 3.8 9 R
    Iowa 3.7 7 R
    Kansas 3.7 7 R
    Idaho 3.2 6 R
    New Hampshire 3 5 R
    Nebraska 2.9 1 N
    South Dakota 2.9 1 R
    Utah 2.9 1 R
    Vermont 2.9 1 B
    The average Blue state unemployment rate is 145% of the Average Red State.
    Row Labels Unemployment Rate
    Blue 6.97
    Red 4.78
    Grand Total 5.60

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    More lock downs result in more unemployment.

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    • #3
      Another interesting study would be higher crime rates and poverty levels.
      "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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      • #4
        Seems quiet...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
          Seems quiet...
          Just saw the thread. Interesting. There are probably many reasons, some good, some bad. One comment I have is that correlation does not necessarily imply causation. poorer people tend to benefit from Democratic or prefer Democratics policies. So all that chart may be capturing is the difference in how poorer populations tend to vote over more wealthy or middle class populations.

          (At this point, having just seen the OP, I have NOT yet taken the time to determine if that hypothesis holds up)
          Last edited by oxmixmudd; 05-07-2021, 01:39 PM.
          Mockery is the argument of the mentally and/or emotionally challenged.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
            Why do the blue states have so much higher Unemployment rates?
            At the federal level it's well-known that the data over time makes it pretty clear that the country overall does better in economic stats when Dems are in charge.

            If you wanted to demonstrate differently at the state level you would need to look at data over time in red vs blue states, not a one-off during an unusual period where some states are in lockdown and others not.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              At the federal level it's well-known that the data over time makes it pretty clear that the country overall does better in economic stats when Dems are in charge.

              If you wanted to demonstrate differently at the state level you would need to look at data over time in red vs blue states, not a one-off during an unusual period where some states are in lockdown and others not.
              State is a better and more accurate measure. There are too many nuances and variables on a federal level, not the least of which is central bank policy.
              "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                At the federal level it's well-known that the data over time makes it pretty clear that the country overall does better in economic stats when Dems are in charge.

                If you wanted to demonstrate differently at the state level you would need to look at data over time in red vs blue states, not a one-off during an unusual period where some states are in lockdown and others not.
                Yeah - I think the point is that lockdowns impact the economy - and there is no doubt they do. If that is the explanation, then the Red states are indeed aptly colored, they keep their economies going on the blood of those they give over to Covid.
                Mockery is the argument of the mentally and/or emotionally challenged.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

                  Yeah - I think the point is that lockdowns impact the economy - and there is no doubt they do. If that is the explanation, then the Red states are indeed aptly colored, they keep their economies going on the blood of those they give over to Covid.
                  That would have been a clever moral indictment if a lot of the blue states with the strictest covid mandates didn't have some the highest fatality rates.
                  "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

                    Yeah - I think the point is that lockdowns impact the economy - and there is no doubt they do. If that is the explanation, then the Red states are indeed aptly colored, they keep their economies going on the blood of those they give over to Covid.
                    Hmmm....It seems your attempt at turning over a leaf ended just as quickly as it began.

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                    • #11
                      Joe recently said the economy is moving in the right direction, and that we should be happy. And then he said the economy is doing terribly, and it's all President Trump's fault.

                      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ce-april-2020/
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        Joe recently said the economy is moving in the right direction, and that we should be happy. And then he said the economy is doing terribly, and it's all President Trump's fault.

                        https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ce-april-2020/
                        Yeah, if the economy is doing so great, why throw tons of money at it? Oh, wait... the economy sucks, so it needs help.

                        And he stumbled through it again like he didn't know his material.
                        "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                          Yeah, if the economy is doing so great, why throw tons of money at it? Oh, wait... the economy sucks, so it needs help.

                          And he stumbled through it again like he didn't know his material.
                          And then he said, "Those making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single penny in taxes."

                          Not a single penny? Heck yeah!

                          https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...-400k-n2588956
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                            Hmmm....It seems your attempt at turning over a leaf ended just as quickly as it began.
                            In which post have I attacked or been uncivil to a person posting or that I've been talking to? The idea that the economy is more important than the lives of those that die as a consequence of avoiding lockdowns is one I am critical of, and I certainly never made a promise never to be critical of an idea put forward on this website. The goal is simply to avoid being hostile to anyone if we disagree, or even if they become hostile or derogatory towards me. Did you somehow get the impression something else was what I was trying to accomplish?
                            Mockery is the argument of the mentally and/or emotionally challenged.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                              And then he said, "Those making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single penny in taxes."

                              Not a single penny? Heck yeah!

                              https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...-400k-n2588956
                              Biden left out the word 'more'. He's made the comment many times without the gaffe. It means nothing other that that the writer of tha article has a distorted view of why Trump came under so much criticism, is bitter about it, and is seeking revenge over it.
                              Mockery is the argument of the mentally and/or emotionally challenged.

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