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The cancel culture and its comparable historical antecedents
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Originally posted by kccd View Post
Cuomo should be investigated.
I don't know that Biden did anything comparable.
OTOH, Trump should be prosecuted.
Then there were the stories of how, while Vice President, he continued insisted on taking evening swims in the pool -- in the nude. While he knew there were female Secret Service agents present. And those agents had made it clear his actions made them "uncomfortable.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
I think it could be fairly applied to both. I am not 'for' the cancel culture thing. Though I tend to think you haven't yet seen cancel culture like you will see it if the those expressing fealty to Trump actually gain majority power in this country. Once/If those guys really get power, we are in for a very rough ride.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
I find it interesting that's how you interpret it. It seems pretty analogous to the Mob tactics of cancel culture. After all, the reason for Socrates trial was those in power essentially got fed up with his needling of people, and Cancel culture is all about punishing someone because of their offending a group of people.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
I find this comment on his death both enlightening and scary in light of the current trend in the GOP away from truth and towards a cult of personality:
https://www.cam.ac.uk/news/socrates-...%20mob%20rule.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Your post expressed your opinions. Simply because someone holds to a differing opinion from you it does not automatically follow that they are therefore, "ignorant".
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
People on discussion boards will often try to make an end run around an opponent's argument by asking a series of shallow and transparently leading questions, and when called on it will claim (incorrectly) that they are using the Socratic Method of debate. Needless to say, Socrates questions were more honest and intellectually stimulating than what is offered by these kinds of trolls.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
The thing is though, this is a discussion forum. low-effort posting isn't a discussion. It's like responding to a giant text message with "k". I've seen the game played by HA enough that I'm willing to call it early and risk missing sincere questions than get dragged down a rabbit hole of mangled, chopped up, posts that ignore half of what was said, cut out answers to questions being asked again, and straight up derailment.
You set your tolerances based on the actual person you are dealing with. I've set mine for dealing with HA based on her past behavior.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Your post expressed your opinions.
The Bible provides clear guidelines about proper behavior and has a very rigidly defined procedure for administrating discipline. The goal is not to "cancel" the person but give him multiple opportunities to repent. "Cancel culture", on the other hand, is vague, has no defined procedure, and is purely vindictive in nature.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
I've tried the method here myself a couple of times, but usually before I get called a Troll people just stop answering questions. I like the idea of not getting bogged down in rabbit trails because some part of one's response was not 100% in line with the meaning of the person's post one responded to. I also like the idea of getting at the presuppositions that cause us to see the same set of data differently. Plus people are usually more capable of owning up to a conclusion if they've derived it as a logical consequence themselves.
But as we see here, people often interpret asking questions as 'avoiding an answer', or they'll just see what the logical conclusion is and get mad and stop cooperating with the dialogue.
You set your tolerances based on the actual person you are dealing with. I've set mine for dealing with HA based on her past behavior.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
I'm well aware of the method. Ill remind you Socrates was killed. Plus his questions tended to be more in depth.
But as we see here, people often interpret asking questions as 'avoiding an answer'.
I find this comment on his death both enlightening and scary in light of the current trend in the GOP away from truth and towards a cult of personality:
https://www.cam.ac.uk/news/socrates-...%20mob%20rule.
Last edited by oxmixmudd; 05-06-2021, 12:30 PM.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
Already answered in my previous post. Maybe try actually responding with something more than "Did you read the article?"
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