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The cancel culture and its comparable historical antecedents
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
I expressed more than that, specifically:
The Bible provides clear guidelines about proper behavior and has a very rigidly defined procedure for administrating discipline.
Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe goal is not to "cancel" the person but give him multiple opportunities to repent.
Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post"Cancel culture", on the other hand, is vague, has no defined procedure, and is purely vindictive in nature.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
After all, the reason for Socrates trial was those in power essentially got fed up with his needling of people,
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostNever said it wasn't.
Are you equating the games that H_A indulges in with Christ's methods?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
OR.....
Rule #1 - I always know best and am never wrong
Rule #2 - If you ever think I'm wrong, see Rule #1"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
"It takes people fighting against the pressure to cancel, pressure to fire, pressure to boycott, companies standing against the boycotts, etc. It takes people willing to be willing to "be the bad guy" in the eyes of many. And, it takes people willing to look at the behavior and recognize that it's wrong, and be willing to not give in".
That sounds very good but when he was asked how that might be achieved he considered that I was engaging in "20-questions", which is somewhat of an exaggerations as my reply contained two opinions and only three questions [two contained in one sentence].
The questions were "On both sides presumably?
And:
"Furthermore who deems which specific "cancellations" to be wrong; and what criteria should be applied to come to that decision?"
I think it was probably those last two that caused his vexation!"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostWhich specific part[s] of the Bible do you have in mind?
For church discipline:
As I said, this is nothing like the modern notion of "cancel culture", and anybody who claims there is a meaningful parallel is ignorant of what the Bible actually teaches, even if he adds the prefix "Dr." to his title.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Writing about yourself?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Did he have a method?
1. Parables. Jesus spoke often using parables, which are stories that illustrate an important truth. He would often use the life situations of the people He spoke to in order to create a story that would have a big impact on them. The main distinction with parables is that the summary of the story should demonstrate the important truth that needs to be shared. For examples, see Luke 10 and 15.
2. Object Lessons. Jesus used object lessons all the time. Sometimes he would use actual objects, and sometimes he would act out the object lesson. The main goal with an object lesson is to share an important truth visually. For examples of different types of object lessons, see Matt 19, Mark 12, John 4, and John 13.
3. Dialogue. Jesus would often engage religious leaders in dialogue, which simply means to engage in the asking and answering of questions. The skill that Jesus had was to look beyond the surface to determine the real question that someone was trying to ask him, then he would help the learner find the answer. For examples, see John 2 and 3.
4. Comparisons. Jesus often taught using comparisons. These comparisons often took the form of parables, object lessons, similes, and metaphors. By comparing two different things, Jesus would make a strong point to His audiences. For examples, see Matt 5 and 13.
5. Poetry. Poetry was a fairly important part of Jewish culture in Jesus’ day. Within Jewish poetry during this era, the focus and structure of the poetry was focused on the relationship between successive lines. Jesus would restate lines in order to bring out the emphasis of the point. For examples, see Matt 7 and Luke 6.
6. Hyperbole. Jesus would occasionally use hyperbole, or overstatement, in order to make His point. While we sometimes have difficulty determining when Jesus was using hyperbole, one clear example can be found in Matthew 7.
7. Puns. Who knew? Jesus would sometimes use puns when he taught others. Often, the English translations of the Bible are not able to bring out this distinctive, because Jesus had a mastery of the Aramaic language (Jesus’ mother tongue) that He would use to not only demonstrate His point, but do so in a funny way, using a “play on words.” Such a usage of humor to communicate an important truth can only be used if someone has a mastery of the audience’s language. For an example of puns, see Matthew 23:24 and look at His usage of the Aramaic words for gnat (galma) and camel (gamla).
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Did he have a method?
ETA: I see that me older little twin brudder from anudder mudder already addressed this.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Did he have a method?Last edited by oxmixmudd; 05-07-2021, 08:07 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostFor moral guidance, the Ten Commandments is a good place to start.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
You could legitimately called ignorant for that statement. Anyone who has read the gospels would know at the very least that Jesus taught using parables.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
You could legitimately called ignorant for that statement. Anyone who has read the gospels would know at the very least that Jesus taught using parables.
However, his "method" was not unique to himself."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostBut he employed a number of different techniques. For instance, this source list nine of them
Parables were a form of instructive teaching and were commonly used. However, if indeed Jesus was primarily someone teaching morals it would be expected that he would have shown a preference for imaginative and concise comments as are found in the Sayings of the Fathers in the Mishnah.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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