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  • #16
    Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

    If you want to have an ACTUAL conversation, put forth effort and make replies that are more than simply 20-questions.
    I responded to what you wrote which was "It takes people fighting against the pressure to cancel, pressure to fire, pressure to boycott, companies standing against the boycotts, etc. It takes people willing to be willing to "be the bad guy" in the eyes of many. And, it takes people willing to look at the behavior and recognize that it's wrong, and be willing to not give in."

    Which is all very "fine and dandy" but how precisely do you propose all the above would be implemented? Hence my questions.
    "It ain't necessarily so
    The things that you're liable
    To read in the Bible
    It ain't necessarily so
    ."

    Sportin' Life
    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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    • #17
      Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

      I'm setting boundaries. I can watch your pattern of simply reducing long posts to simple questions which require long posts to answer, then getting minor simple questions in return. There's an lopsidedness of effort in that exchange I'm not willing to deal with. It's not a conversation, it's not a debate. So, I'm going to cut you off now, instead of going down this rabbit hole, as was done in your conversation about police unions.

      If you want to have an ACTUAL conversation, put forth effort and make replies that are more than simply 20-questions.


      Every so often someone posts something that makes me wish that I had a sock puppet account so I could Amen their post more than once.

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

        I responded to what you wrote which was "It takes people fighting against the pressure to cancel, pressure to fire, pressure to boycott, companies standing against the boycotts, etc. It takes people willing to be willing to "be the bad guy" in the eyes of many. And, it takes people willing to look at the behavior and recognize that it's wrong, and be willing to not give in."

        Which is all very "fine and dandy" but how precisely do you propose all the above would be implemented? Hence my questions.
        Then put forth effort in the discussion. I answered one question, then you came back with 3 more. That's not a debate, that's you playing 20 questions. Offer actual effort on your part to engage with the discussion instead of low-effort posting and I'll get back to you. Until then, this is my last post to you on this thread.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

          Then put forth effort in the discussion. I answered one question, then you came back with 3 more. That's not a debate, that's you playing 20 questions. Offer actual effort on your part to engage with the discussion instead of low-effort posting and I'll get back to you. Until then, this is my last post to you on this thread.
          You made this statement: It takes people fighting against the pressure to cancel, pressure to fire, pressure to boycott, companies standing against the boycotts, etc. It takes people willing to be willing to "be the bad guy" in the eyes of many. And, it takes people willing to look at the behavior and recognize that it's wrong, and be willing to not give in."

          Elucidate on how you propose all the above would/could be achieved.
          "It ain't necessarily so
          The things that you're liable
          To read in the Bible
          It ain't necessarily so
          ."

          Sportin' Life
          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            There is no meaningful parallel between a church following Biblical instruction to excommunicate an unrepentant member, and the modern notion of "cancel culture".
            In your opinion. However, the Rev. Dr. Schelin would suggest otherwise.
            "It ain't necessarily so
            The things that you're liable
            To read in the Bible
            It ain't necessarily so
            ."

            Sportin' Life
            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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            • #21
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              So what do you propose we do with Biden and Cuomo?

              That is an interesting question. What would you suggest?
              "It ain't necessarily so
              The things that you're liable
              To read in the Bible
              It ain't necessarily so
              ."

              Sportin' Life
              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                That is an interesting question. What would you suggest?
                Perhaps you care to do more than ask the same question back?

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  Perhaps you care to do more than ask the same question back?
                  Well you asked a question of kccd , I presumed that you had an answer for it. Or were you being rhetorical?
                  "It ain't necessarily so
                  The things that you're liable
                  To read in the Bible
                  It ain't necessarily so
                  ."

                  Sportin' Life
                  Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                    Well you asked a question of kccd , I presumed that you had an answer for it. Or were you being rhetorical?
                    It could also be that

                    1) I'm wanting to see how kccd responds first

                    b: I'm really tired of asking a question only to get a question as a response.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      It could also be that

                      1) I'm wanting to see how kccd responds first

                      b: I'm really tired of asking a question only to get a question as a response.
                      You'd be very unhappy with Jesus.

                      "Neighbor, how long has it been since youíve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?Ē

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                        You'd be very unhappy with Jesus.

                        Last time I checked He didn't only answer questions with a question.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          It could also be that

                          1) I'm wanting to see how kccd responds first

                          b: I'm really tired of asking a question only to get a question as a response.
                          Set your boundaries and stick to them.

                          Her last response to me was to re-word her question as a statement, but still not taking effort to engage in discussion. So, she hasn't gotten (and will not get) a reply.

                          I suggest you do the same, it'll save frustration.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                            Set your boundaries and stick to them.

                            Her last response to me was to re-word her question as a statement, but still not taking effort to engage in discussion. So, she hasn't gotten (and will not get) a reply.

                            I suggest you do the same, it'll save frustration.
                            You are back to your old tricks. You made a statement here: " It takes people fighting against the pressure to cancel, pressure to fire, pressure to boycott, companies standing against the boycotts, etc. It takes people willing to be willing to "be the bad guy" in the eyes of many. And, it takes people willing to look at the behavior and recognize that it's wrong, and be willing to not give in."

                            How does anyone "engage in discussion" when they have no idea how you propose to effect any, or all, of the above?
                            "It ain't necessarily so
                            The things that you're liable
                            To read in the Bible
                            It ain't necessarily so
                            ."

                            Sportin' Life
                            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                              You are back to your old tricks. You made a statement here: " It takes people fighting against the pressure to cancel, pressure to fire, pressure to boycott, companies standing against the boycotts, etc. It takes people willing to be willing to "be the bad guy" in the eyes of many. And, it takes people willing to look at the behavior and recognize that it's wrong, and be willing to not give in."

                              How does anyone "engage in discussion" when they have no idea how you propose to effect any, or all, of the above?
                              Boundaries for dealing with HA:

                              1. I will not engage in pedantic definition games. A request for clarity of definition will not be granted unless a good-faith effort is made to use context from the post and greater conversation to figure it out.

                              2. I will not engage in lopsided effort discussions. When it has been determined that the debate style is going to be simple question responses to posts, no further responses will be given until such time as honest attempts with effort and discussion points are put forth.

                              I reserve the right to set new boundaries as needed.

                              If you need further reminder of these boundaries they will be provided as needed.
                              Last edited by CivilDiscourse; 05-06-2021, 09:45 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                Last time I checked He didn't only answer questions with a question.
                                But it was one of his primary teaching methods.
                                "Neighbor, how long has it been since youíve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?Ē

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