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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Continuing Trump's goal, but announcing details publicly.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Trump knows the hazards of announcing goals publicly. He's probably still kicking himself for saying, "if we have between 100,000 and 200,000 (deaths), we all together have done a very good job.”That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
He wasn't wrong. The initial estimate was in the millions. Keeping deaths way below those estimates was a solid win.
The initial estimate was assuming that we would do nothing about the pandemic. Less that that just means we did something, even if it wasn't very effective.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
100,000 to 200,000 would still have been pretty bad.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIndeed. If the Chinese coronavirus only killed one person it would still be bad, especially to the family and friends of the deceased (not to mention the person who died). But when the estimates were that it would be millions who perished the fact that "only" 100,000 to 200,000 in fact died is a success.
And of course, 600,000 is a huge failure.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
It's all relative. And I think 100,000 to 200,000 would be pretty bad relative to what good leadership could accomplish.
And of course, 600,000 is a huge failure.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
It's all relative. And I think 100,000 to 200,000 would be pretty bad relative to what good leadership could accomplish.
And of course, 600,000 is a huge failure.
I guess we can conclude that the world is in extreme deficit of "good leadership"
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
Most of those were in Democrat run states, and the Governors are the ones who have the final say on state quarantine practices.
Now guess which of those states did far better than the other one.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostMost of those were in Democrat run states, and the Governors are the ones who have the final say on state quarantine practices.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
He wasn't wrong. The initial estimate was in the millions. Keeping deaths way below those estimates was a solid win.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
No, the ones who have the final say are individuals, many of whom were following Trump's example, even in blue states.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
No, the ones who have the final say are individuals, many of whom were following Trump's example, even in blue states.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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