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  • #16
    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    But a photo doesn't indicate whether or not he's articulate.
    But he does look "clean"!
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      John Sullivan - BLM Activist - Ashli Babbitt Shooting

      For those who want to believe that the Capitol Riot was entirely a "right wing thing", this might be of interest.

      sullivan.jpg

      [box]BLACK Lives Matter activist John Sullivan was arrested by the FBI on January 14, due to his alleged involvement in the Capitol riots.

      Sullivan's arrest comes as the FBI continues it crackdown on rioters who participated in the attempted Capitol siege to protest Joe Biden's presidential victory.

      Who is BLM activist John Sullivan?

      John Sullivan is an activist from Utah.

      Sullivan allegedly uses aliases such as “Activist X,” “Activist John,” and “Jayden X."

      He is the founder of Insurgence USA, a Utah-based group set up in 2020 to protest police brutality, with the goal of the "unification of our nation because a people united will never be divided."

      Sullivan was arrested on January 14, and charged in federal court in the District of Columbia with civil disorder, being in a restricted area and disorderly conduct.

      His name made headlines after he appeared on CNN to chat with Anderson Cooper regarding the video he captured of Ashli Babbitt being shot by Capitol police.

      According to Max Blumenthal, an editor at The Grayzone, he claims Sullivan is best known among the left-wing crowd "for his propensity for inspiring chaos, engaging in counterproductive tactics that often trigger arrests, and consistently undermining BLM objectives.”

      Why was he arrested by the FBI?

      Sullivan was arrested by the FBI for his alleged involvement in the January 6 Capitol riots.

      Now, before certain posters get their noses out of joint wailing about the validity of this claim -- I'm simply posting it here for discussion.
      I had not heard, before today, of this John Sullivan, his alleged association with BLM, or his alleged part in the Capitol Riot.
      That's what's needed.
      Impartial, detached, objective policing and justice.
      Nick and convict the whole lot.
      Sorted.

      ​​​

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      • #18
        Originally posted by eider View Post

        That's what's needed.
        Impartial, detached, objective policing and justice.
        Nick and convict the whole lot.
        Sorted.

        ​​​
        It would sure have been nice to have seen some of that in one of the dozens of cities besieged by rioters and looters last year.

        But only when the political elite feel personally threatened is any action taken. It's like how Seattle's mayor tolerated the "autonomous zone," even after these insurrectionists had started shooting and killing people that approached "their" territory, and only demanded that they be cleared out when some protested outside her mansion home. That was when they went too far.

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • #19
          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          It would sure have been nice to have seen some of that in one of the dozens of cities besieged by rioters and looters last year.

          But only when the political elite feel personally threatened is any action taken. It's like how Seattle's mayor tolerated the "autonomous zone," even after these insurrectionists had started shooting and killing people that approached "their" territory, and only demanded that they be cleared out when some protested outside her mansion home. That was when they went too far.
          Yup - it was ALL TRUMP all the time!!!
          "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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          • #20
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            It would sure have been nice to have seen some of that in one of the dozens of cities besieged by rioters and looters last year.
            Besieged cities?
            Got any sources for those incidents?

            But only when the political elite feel personally threatened is any action taken. It's like how Seattle's mayor tolerated the "autonomous zone," even after these insurrectionists had started shooting and killing people that approached "their" territory, and only demanded that they be cleared out when some protested outside her mansion home. That was when they went too far.
            Insurrections? Got any sources for those?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by eider View Post
              Besieged cities?
              Got any sources for those incidents?
              Like Portland, Oregon and other places where BLM and/or other rioters set up "autonomous zones".
              Discussed quite a bit on this board.

              Insurrections? Got any sources for those?
              Did you miss the whole Seattle thing, where they set up autonomous zones, tried to burn down the police station, and set up mob rule?

              Portland Mayor "Time to take our city back"

              Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
              "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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              • #22
                Originally posted by eider View Post
                Besieged cities?
                Got any sources for those incidents?
                Are you pleading ignorance about what happened in cities like, Portland and Seattle, for instance? Seriously?


                Originally posted by eider View Post
                Insurrections? Got any sources for those?
                What else do you call it when a group literally seizes control of six city blocks in the heart of a city like Seattle, cordons it off, proclaims the area is no longer a part of or under the jurisdiction of the federal, state, and municipal government. That they literally were what the proclaimed they were -- an autonomous zone. One that was patrolled by armed guards with a propensity to shoot at anyone who dared to approach "their" turf. They actually shot and killed two people in separate instances.

                So you have a group that seizes government property, declares themselves to be a separate independent political entity with set boundaries which they enforced by force of arms. Sounds pretty much like an armed insurrection

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  What else do you call it when a group literally seizes control of six city blocks in the heart of a city like Seattle, cordons it off, proclaims the area is no longer a part of or under the jurisdiction of the federal, state, and municipal government. That they literally were what the proclaimed they were -- an autonomous zone. One that was patrolled by armed guards with a propensity to shoot at anyone who dared to approach "their" turf. They actually shot and killed two people in separate instances.

                  So you have a group that seizes government property, declares themselves to be a separate independent political entity with set boundaries which they enforced by force of arms. Sounds pretty much like an armed insurrection
                  I'd call it a certain disaster. And it quickly fell apart when no one volunteered to bring them tofu.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    Are you pleading ignorance about what happened in cities like, Portland and Seattle, for instance? Seriously?
                    He HAS been very civil, and is fairly new, so I'm allowing that he may not have gotten caught up on all that.

                    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                      Like Portland, Oregon and other places where BLM and/or other rioters set up "autonomous zones".
                      Discussed quite a bit on this board.


                      Did you miss the whole Seattle thing, where they set up autonomous zones, tried to burn down the police station, and set up mob rule?

                      Portland Mayor "Time to take our city back"

                      Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
                      OK..... Right! Yep. There were several protests that turned in to riots..... and mobs turned violent.
                      We heard about those.

                      Look...... if folks now want to turn riots in to sieges, and violent mobs in to insurrections...... that's up to you

                      I asked a question........ about sieges and insurrections.
                      But if you took a survey in any any Brit street about insurrection 'ATTEMPTS' in America you'd get a big bundle of replies about 6th January.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Are you pleading ignorance about what happened in cities like, Portland and Seattle, for instance? Seriously?
                        A Question isn't a plea, and a siege isn't a violent mob,.
                        When people start talking back loud, after a quiet question, you know there are 'sides'........

                        What else do you call it when a group literally seizes control of six city blocks in the heart of a city like Seattle, cordons it off, proclaims the area is no longer a part of or under the jurisdiction of the federal, state, and municipal government. That they literally were what the proclaimed they were -- an autonomous zone. One that was patrolled by armed guards with a propensity to shoot at anyone who dared to approach "their" turf. They actually shot and killed two people in separate instances.
                        There were two murders...... that's very very bad.
                        But .......'Patrolling armed guards with propensity to shoot....' look, in America, with 300 million guns all over the place, and open carry of long guns legal in some States, I wouldn't know which strutting nut was a traitor and which a lawful citizen, so please don't stop folks living in Europe asking simple questions, ok?

                        So you have a group that seizes government property, declares themselves to be a separate independent political entity with set boundaries which they enforced by force of arms. Sounds pretty much like an armed insurrection
                        Armed Insurrection now!
                        That sounds so much stronger than Insurrection...... you should have plonked 'armed' bin there in the first place.


                        Things is........ the day that you have a besieged city, or town, or village... in your country...... that'll be a siege.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                          He HAS been very civil, and is fairly new, so I'm allowing that he may not have gotten caught up on all that.
                          Where I live we have had violent riots across the country before, circa 2012, I think. Very very violent, every night for about a fortnight. Our PM Cameron insisted that every second of CCTV and vid coverage of every attack, arson, burglary, robbery during those events was discovered, arrested and convicted 'with maximum sentences'...... and yet now I can't remember what year that was, only that Cameron was boss back then.

                          Our last violent mob incident happened two days ago. An horrid group of 'insurrectionists' 'invaded' a huge stadium, attacked police officers injuring two....... over a football club's policies,

                          It's all in the way you tell 'em.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            Are you pleading ignorance about what happened in cities like, Portland and Seattle, for instance? Seriously?
                            ,...................
                            . Sounds pretty much like an armed insurrection
                            Like news you never noticed.......

                            6th-11th August 2011.
                            The police shot Mark Duggan unlawfully.
                            .....ever heard anything like this?
                            Riots in London, W.Midlands, E.Midlands, Mersey, Yorkshire, Bristol, Manchester, and several other cities.

                            Pillaging, looting, assaults, murders, robberies, burglaries.

                            186 police injured,
                            2815 homes and businesses destroyed.
                            3000+ arrests,

                            Sieges to cities?
                            I don't think so.......

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by eider View Post

                              OK..... Right! Yep. There were several protests that turned in to riots..... and mobs turned violent.
                              We heard about those.

                              Look...... if folks now want to turn riots in to sieges, and violent mobs in to insurrections...... that's up to you

                              I asked a question........ about sieges and insurrections.
                              Do you not consider taking and holding over six city blocks in Seattle a "siege"?

                              But if you took a survey in any any Brit street about insurrection 'ATTEMPTS' in America you'd get a big bundle of replies about 6th January.
                              Yes, that happened, too.



                              "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by eider View Post

                                Where I live we have had violent riots across the country before, circa 2012, I think. Very very violent, every night for about a fortnight. Our PM Cameron insisted that every second of CCTV and vid coverage of every attack, arson, burglary, robbery during those events was discovered, arrested and convicted 'with maximum sentences'...... and yet now I can't remember what year that was, only that Cameron was boss back then.

                                Our last violent mob incident happened two days ago. An horrid group of 'insurrectionists' 'invaded' a huge stadium, attacked police officers injuring two....... over a football club's policies,

                                It's all in the way you tell 'em.
                                Yes, and the left here, along with the media (but I repeat myself) actually defend our riots as "mostly peaceful", and local mayors (as in Portland) tolerate and placate them. When Federal authorities are sent in to deal with them, the federal authorities are reviled as jack-booted thugs.
                                "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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