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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by Sparko View Post

    You know those "find the difference in these two pictures" things? Here is an easy way to do that. Look at the two side by side pictures cross-eyed until you see the overlapped picture in the middle, the differences will stand out easily, they will "shimmer".

    hotspring-world-spot-the-difference-hot-tub-party-1523020152.jpg
    Thought of the above when I came across this

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  • seanD
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    Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
    Charles Cooke at NR: Maggie Haberman Is Right
    We are living in some crazy times. Whatever happens, the left set the precedent to all this.

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  • NorrinRadd
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    Charles Cooke at NR: Maggie Haberman Is Right

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  • NorrinRadd
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    *sigh*

    A good friend of mine posted this on Facebook:

    I re-Shared it on my own Timeline (or whatever), along with my declaration that it is bat-____ crazy. It appears that several of my friends both believe this is going to happen, and that it would be a good thing.

    Lara Trump has apparently been shut out of the loop, because she has said she has no knowledge that Bad Orange Man believes any of this.

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  • seanD
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    Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

    There is nothing about that that is NOT disturbing.

    It's nutty if Bad Orange Man really is encouraging that kind of lunacy.

    It's bad if Maggie is spreading Fake News.

    But nothing is worse than the possibility that some of my fellow Trump supporters might actually *welcome* such a "reinstatement."

    How would that even happen? What is the Constitutional pathway?

    I believe it is bad for the nation that Biden won.

    I believe there were election irregularities more numerous and serious than usual, largely working to the benefit of Biden and the Dems.

    I believe Big Tech and Mainstream Media collectively served as propagandists and information gatekeepers in ways that benefited Biden and the Dems.

    But I'm not convinced that in toto that amounted to a "steal" of the election.

    And even if it did, I don't see any way of "undoing" it that would not be even worse.
    I still think this stuff, in fact anything linked to Q, is a psyop because of the fact its sprinkled with things that are factual. So the objective would be to make things that are factual sound as nutty as you can to turn regular folks off and obstruct and obfuscate what really is true. I just don't get why ordinary (supposed) Christians are falling for this Q stuff. Maybe it's some kind of weird cognitive dissonance or something... I don't know. Knowing the NYT, that sounds like a bunch of bull, but if Trump really is telling his supporters this, then that puts this whole thing on another level of ugliness.

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

    There is nothing about that that is NOT disturbing.

    It's nutty if Bad Orange Man really is encouraging that kind of lunacy.

    It's bad if Maggie is spreading Fake News.

    But nothing is worse than the possibility that some of my fellow Trump supporters might actually *welcome* such a "reinstatement."

    How would that even happen? What is the Constitutional pathway?

    I believe it is bad for the nation that Biden won.

    I believe there were election irregularities more numerous and serious than usual, largely working to the benefit of Biden and the Dems.

    I believe Big Tech and Mainstream Media collectively served as propagandists and information gatekeepers in ways that benefited Biden and the Dems.

    But I'm not convinced that in toto that amounted to a "steal" of the election.

    And even if it did, I don't see any way of "undoing" it that would not be even worse.
    There is not a single statement there which I would disagree with.

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  • NorrinRadd
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    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    According to New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman, Trump has been telling supporters that he's going to be reinstated as President by August.

    One of two people mentioned in the sentence above is not in touch with reality by any means.
    There is nothing about that that is NOT disturbing.

    It's nutty if Bad Orange Man really is encouraging that kind of lunacy.

    It's bad if Maggie is spreading Fake News.

    But nothing is worse than the possibility that some of my fellow Trump supporters might actually *welcome* such a "reinstatement."

    How would that even happen? What is the Constitutional pathway?

    I believe it is bad for the nation that Biden won.

    I believe there were election irregularities more numerous and serious than usual, largely working to the benefit of Biden and the Dems.

    I believe Big Tech and Mainstream Media collectively served as propagandists and information gatekeepers in ways that benefited Biden and the Dems.

    But I'm not convinced that in toto that amounted to a "steal" of the election.

    And even if it did, I don't see any way of "undoing" it that would not be even worse.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

    I wondered about that. When I went to the archived link and saw some of the other headlines, I thought it sounded Babylon Bee-like.

    I often -- like, multiple times daily -- share Bee stories on Facebook. I'm always disappointed and gobsmacked when some of my friends are outraged, not recognizing satire. I consider the ability to recognize satire and sarcasm more accurate and useful than most IQ tests.
    As I've noted before, liberals have gone so far over the edge that satirizing them has become a nearly impossible task. There's nothing you can say that is so stupid that you won't find a bunch of liberals somewhere nodding their heads in sincere agreement.

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  • NorrinRadd
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    Originally posted by seanD View Post

    I see nothing on that site indicating it's meant to be satire. When you read the comment section, it appears his readers don't believe it's satire.

    Btw, there is definitely a faction (albeit small) of Trump supporters that are believing some really off-the-wall nonsense lunacy. I mean stuff that is just absolutely off-the-chain nutty. I was watching a video of a guy (who's supposedly Christian) who is fairly intelligent and used to be a pretty level-headed guy in the past spouting a Qanon conspiracy theory that goes something like this: Apparently JFK Jr. faked his death, is sending out secret messages to Trump's supporters, and is planning to run with Trump as his mate sometime this year when Trump finally seizes power from Biden, who isn't really POTUS but is faking like he's POTUS, and then America will finally be the America they were promised like it was before the leftist took it over. I mean, the guy really believes this lunacy, and it was so sad to watch his psychosis on display right before my eyes.

    I honestly don't understand what's happening with these folks, most of which I believe are Christian, or how to explain that on any sort of theological level. Though I highly doubt it's that big of a cult, it just seems pervasive because they're networking on the internet in real time. But the fact there are definitely multiple folks (the guy has a girlfriend also fully on board this idea) that really believe this is some scary stuff.
    I'd like to talk with my friend's sister. My friend doesn't really probe for details. I don't think she wants to know how deep the rabbit hole goes, as they say. But I have the gift of morbid curiosity. I don't know when I'll get the chance. I'm currently car-less, so I don't get down that way, and even when I did, it was fairly rare to cross paths with sis.

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  • NorrinRadd
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    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    Real Raw News is a parody site. That's the second time today I've seen a case of people credulously believing parody pieces are real news. The right-wing conspiracy machine seems to swallow them whole.
    I wondered about that. When I went to the archived link and saw some of the other headlines, I thought it sounded Babylon Bee-like.

    I often -- like, multiple times daily -- share Bee stories on Facebook. I'm always disappointed and gobsmacked when some of my friends are outraged, not recognizing satire. I consider the ability to recognize satire and sarcasm more accurate and useful than most IQ tests.

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  • seanD
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    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    According to New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman, Trump has been telling supporters that he's going to be reinstated as President by August.

    One of two people mentioned in the sentence above is not in touch with reality by any means.
    It just frustrates all the stuff that is just as crazy sounding, but actually has some basis in fact. It makes it that much harder for us researchers that have to sift through the nonsense to get to the real.

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by seanD View Post

    I see nothing on that site indicating it's meant to be satire. When you read the comment section, it appears his readers don't believe it's satire.

    Btw, there is definitely a faction (albeit small) of Trump supporters that are believing some really off-the-wall nonsense lunacy. I mean stuff that is just absolutely off-the-chain nutty. I was watching a video of a guy (who's supposedly Christian) who is fairly intelligent and used to be a pretty level-headed guy in the past spouting a Qanon conspiracy theory that goes something like this: Apparently JFK Jr. faked his death, is sending out secret messages to Trump's supporters, and is planning to run with Trump as his mate sometime this year when Trump finally seizes power from Biden, who isn't really POTUS but is faking like he's POTUS, and then America will finally be the America they were promised like it was before the leftist took it over. I mean, the guy really believes this lunacy, and it was so sad to watch his psychosis on display right before my eyes.

    I honestly don't understand what's happening with these folks, most of which I believe are Christian, or how to explain that on any sort of theological level. Though I highly doubt it's that big of a cult, it just seems pervasive because they're networking on the internet in real time. But the fact there are definitely multiple folks (the guy has a girlfriend also fully on board this idea) that really believe this is some scary stuff.
    According to New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman, Trump has been telling supporters that he's going to be reinstated as President by August.

    One of two people mentioned in the sentence above is not in touch with reality by any means.

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  • seanD
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    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    Real Raw News is a parody site. That's the second time today I've seen a case of people credulously believing parody pieces are real news. The right-wing conspiracy machine seems to swallow them whole.
    I see nothing on that site indicating it's meant to be satire. When you read the comment section, it appears his readers don't believe it's satire.

    Btw, there is definitely a faction (albeit small) of Trump supporters that are believing some really off-the-wall nonsense lunacy. I mean stuff that is just absolutely off-the-chain nutty. I was watching a video of a guy (who's supposedly Christian) who is fairly intelligent and used to be a pretty level-headed guy in the past spouting a Qanon conspiracy theory that goes something like this: Apparently JFK Jr. faked his death, is sending out secret messages to Trump's supporters, and is planning to run with Trump as his mate sometime this year when Trump finally seizes power from Biden, who isn't really POTUS but is faking like he's POTUS, and then America will finally be the America they were promised like it was before the leftist took it over. I mean, the guy really believes this lunacy, and it was so sad to watch his psychosis on display right before my eyes.

    I honestly don't understand what's happening with these folks, most of which I believe are Christian, or how to explain that on any sort of theological level. Though I highly doubt it's that big of a cult, it just seems pervasive because they're networking on the internet in real time. But the fact there are definitely multiple folks (the guy has a girlfriend also fully on board this idea) that really believe this is some scary stuff.

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    ... And Facebook continues to censor satire ...

    Satire can often reflect and encourage violent or racist thought. It happened a lot leading up to the holocaust. So I would believe doing so could be justified. So then I would be of a mind that a blanket condemnation of such action is too broad a stroke.
    Some will always be able to find an excuse to ban everything they don't like

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  • oxmixmudd
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    ... And Facebook continues to censor satire ...

    Satire can often reflect and encourage violent or racist thought. It happened a lot leading up to the holocaust. So I would believe doing so could be justified. So then I would be of a mind that a blanket condemnation of such action is too broad a stroke.

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