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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
As I said, its not that you have to condemn everything. It's just funny watching the patterns emerge about what does and does not get condemned.
It's like watching what sort of political violence news does and does not focus on.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
Yes, and perhaps you didn't notice that there were false accusations that is all I care about. And so now I am being accused of not caring enough.
It's like watching what sort of political violence news does and does not focus on.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Not a kafka trap at all. I just said it was interesting to see when suddenly the silence comes in, when not long ago you were starting entire threads to talk about racism.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
So Kafka trap then, since I already said my reason for not being in this thread is related to not wanting to be chum at a feeding frenzy, and I said I thought the comments about uncle tim were bad, but I'm not sure they can be properly called racism.
And I didn't decide that to condemn this was virtue signaling. I asked if this sort of implication I'm somehow not consistent because I didn't come rushing in to condemn these comments is what motivates virtue signaling.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
I would say that overall, what's interesting is when the pattern changes from screaming "racism is bad" from the mountaintop, to suddenly crickets or that speaking out is just "virtue signaling".
Or, to put it another way. Nobody says you have to condemn all acts of racism, but it is interesting to see which ones you decide are just virtue signaling.
And I didn't decide that to condemn this was virtue signaling. I asked if this sort of implication I'm somehow not consistent because I didn't come rushing in to condemn these comments is what motivates virtue signaling.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
I have no problem condemning attacks against a black man. I'm not sure insults from a black person to a black person can be properly called 'racism', but referencing a person as 'uncle Tim/tom' has never been nor is it now a useful or appropriate thing to say.
I am wondering about the old virtue signaling thing though. Sounds like I'm getting ready to be hauled up on charges of hypocrisy or some such if I don't run in here and condemn this. But isn't that just sorta demanding I say the thing you want to hear - and isn't that what the whole virtue signaling thing is all about?
Or maybe its a Kafka Trap and I'm condemned no matter what I say?
Or, to put it another way. Nobody says you have to condemn all acts of racism, but it is interesting to see which ones you decide are just virtue signaling.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Doesn't seem that hard to condemn racist attacks against a black man.
I am wondering about the old virtue signaling thing though. Sounds like I'm getting ready to be hauled up on charges of hypocrisy or some such if I don't run in here and condemn this. But isn't that just sorta demanding I say the thing you want to hear - and isn't that what the whole virtue signaling thing is all about?
Or maybe its a Kafka Trap and I'm condemned no matter what I say?Last edited by oxmixmudd; 05-02-2021, 04:00 PM.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
I do care a lot about racism, but I don't care much for being chum in a feeding frenzy.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
... and how often a person uses them tells how great is their need is to feel 'greater'.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostSo you didn't actually have a point. Got it.
Like...... read the bloody OP??? And look at pretty much anything that comes out of Joe Biden's mouth....... Or Hillary's......
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