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So, review...
Public Sector Unions always pit the interests of the dues-paying members against the communities they serve or protect.
A Police Union would be a public sector union.
The BIGGER the Union is, the harder it is to "keep clean", and the more prone to corruption it is.
Unions are all about two things --- power and money.
The biggest problems we've seen with policing in the US come from departments with large police unions.
One of the biggest reasons to have a public sector union is "collective bargaining".
The union will work it's hardest to get the most money and benefits for the dues-paying members -- at the expense of the communities those dues-paying members serve.
In the case of the biggest police and fire unions, they have managed to force the municipalities they serve into exorbitant retirement and benefit packages.
The expense of the pension programs alone for retired members, in many cases, far surpasses the expense of active duty members, and is in ADDITION to that.
It would be akin to putting the mafia in charge of the Department of Justice.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Sure. Unions are bad for police departments.
Clear enough? Pretty much what I've been saying throughout this entire thread.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThis thread would be a hundred posts long at best if it weren't for all the cavilling intended to induce pettifoggery
But I won't. I WON'T!!! The H-E-Double-HockeySticks I won't!!!!!
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
I believe you have mistaken Sparko for me."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Sure. Unions are bad for police departments.
Post #288 where your reply included the following:Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostGet rid of the unionsOriginally posted by Cow Poke View PostMy position is that they should be curtailed, reined in. I'm not proposing they be totally abolished.Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostGet rid of the PROBLEM unions"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Please stop the constractulation. That was CP who used an 'archaic' meaning, not I.
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThat archaic usage is not uncommon around these parts. If you didn't keep nit-picking over verbification that nobody but you seems to have any trouble with (or more likely that you see as a gotcha opportunity), conversations would be increasingly fruitful."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
So which of your previous statements would you like to see put into practise?
Post #288 where your reply included the following:
Post # 363
Post # 377 where your comment included this statement:The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostPoint taken.
Public Sector unions pit interests of the dues-paying members against the tax payers who pay their salaries.
Especially with regards to police and education.
If the unions can't be eliminated, then SERIOUSLY rein in or eliminate collective bargaining.
Did you take the time to Google the difference between Public and Private Sector Unions?
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
You quoted my words. Did you not understand them?
What archaic usage of words did I employ in my reply that Sparko quoted?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostWhere did I say that you did? You really need to stop making things up.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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You appear to going for the options stated in your posts #288 and #363
Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
My very first choice would be to get rid of all public sector unions.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIf the unions can't be eliminated, then SERIOUSLY rein in or eliminate collective bargaining.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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