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  • #16
    Originally posted by seanD View Post
    How many leftist narratives used against Trump that have bitten the dust does that make so far?
    And if Trump was impeached for "inciting a riot", why isn't the same crowd going after Maxine Waters? (but, yeah, we know the answer to that)
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    • #17
      Originally posted by seanD View Post

      In all seriousness, that should be scary to us all how the MSM manipulated the whole country with lies the way they did.
      And after comprehending the weight of that, wondering just how long has it been going on.

      I'm always still in trouble again

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      • #18
        Originally posted by mossrose View Post
        I notice that in this thread and the Maxine Waters thread the leftist residents of the site are conspicuously silent, nay, non-existent.
        Because:
        1. They have no defense against what she has done.
        2. If they turn a blind eye maybe it will go away.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by mossrose View Post
          I notice that in this thread and the Maxine Waters thread the leftist residents of the site are conspicuously silent, nay, non-existent.
          After it has become impossible to hand wave it off as nothing more than a conspiracy theory by RWNJ/white supremacists/Q-non, can you blame them? That had been pretty much the entire content of their talking points.

          I'm always still in trouble again

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          • #20
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            After it has become impossible to hand wave it off as nothing more than a conspiracy theory by RWNJ/white supremacists/Q-non, can you blame them? That had been pretty much the entire content of their talking points.
            I'm not advocating for (or even wishing for) a return of Trump - but he's probably the only one who could package this all up and throw it in their faces. Republicans in office seem to have the backbone of a horsehair worm.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

              And if Trump was impeached for "inciting a riot", why isn't the same crowd going after Maxine Waters? (but, yeah, we know the answer to that)
              yup. And she really screwed up by basically making threats to the jury that if they don't come back with the verdict she wants then riots will ensue.

              Which they will of course. But to make it a verbal threat by a congresswoman? Going way too far.


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              • #22
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                yup. And she really screwed up by basically making threats to the jury that if they don't come back with the verdict she wants then riots will ensue.

                Which they will of course. But to make it a verbal threat by a congresswoman? Going way too far.
                And jury tampering is illegal - to what extent that case can be made
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                  yup. And she really screwed up by basically making threats to the jury that if they don't come back with the verdict she wants then riots will ensue.

                  Which they will of course. But to make it a verbal threat by a congresswoman? Going way too far.
                  Her previous inciteful remarks, which she has a well documented history of making, were exhibited during the the "Impeachment Circus II: Bigger! Badder! Louder!" and was effectively ignored by the MSM[1]

                  This could have well emboldened her to continue acting in the same manner that she did wrt OMB (and the Democrats and MSM lauded her for it), but with a new target (one which the same groups finds worrisome now that old Joe occupies the White House).




                  1. with the exception when they were disdainfully dismissing it without actually covering it.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    The Media Lied Repeatedly About Officer Brian Sicknick's Death. And They Just Got Caught.

                    It was crucial for liberal sectors of the media to invent and disseminate a harrowing lie about how Officer Brian Sicknick died. That is because he is the only one they could claim was killed by pro-Trump protesters at the January 6 riot at the Capitol.

                    So The New York Times on January 8 published an emotionally gut-wrenching but complete fiction that never had any evidence — that Officer Sicknick's skull was savagely bashed in with a fire extinguisher by a pro-Trump mob until he died — and, just like the now-discredited Russian bounty story also unveiled by that same paper, cable outlets and other media platforms repeated this lie over and over in the most emotionally manipulative way possible. Just watch a part of what they did and how:



                    As I detailed over and over when examining this story, there were so many reasons to doubt this storyline from the start. Nobody on the record claimed it happened. The autopsy found no blunt trauma to the head. Sicknick's own family kept urging the press to stop spreading this story because he called them the night of January 6 and told them he was fine — obviously inconsistent with the media's claim that he died by having his skull bashed in — and his own mother kept saying that she believed he died of a stroke.

                    But the gruesome story of Sicknick's “murder” was too valuable to allow any questioning. It was weaponized over and over to depict the pro-Trump mob not as just violent but barbaric and murderous, because if Sicknick weren't murdered by them, then nobody was (without Sicknick, the only ones killed were four pro-Trump supporters: two who died of a heart attack, one from an amphetamine overdose, and the other, Ashli Babbitt, who was shot point blank in the neck by Capitol Police despite being unarmed). So crucial was this fairy tale about Sicknick that it made its way into the official record of President Trump's impeachment trial in the Senate, and they had Joe Biden himself recite from the script, even as clear facts mounted proving it was untrue......

                    Some JerkTM will no doubt be along shortly to malign your source. He is, after all, duty-bound to white knight for the Gray Lady.
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                    • #25
                      Will the Times apologize for lying about Officer Sicknick’s death?

                      An unruly crowd entered the US Capitol on Jan. 6, while then-President Donald Trump addressed a rally several blocks away. One member of that crowd, Ashli Babbitt, an unarmed woman and a veteran, was shot by the Capitol Police. The next day, Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick died in the hospital.

                      On Jan. 8, The New York Times reported that Officer Sicknick had died after being struck in the head with a fire extinguisher by violent Trump supporters. This story was quickly repeated by numerous other media outlets. Millions believed it.

                      The story was false.

                      Sicknick died of two strokes, which occurred many hours after the invasion of the Capitol. The blue-check-media fallback was that bear spray used by the Capitol invaders had caused the officer’s strokes.

                      That also turned out to be false. After a curiously long delay, the DC medical examiner’s office released its report this week, and it concludes that Sicknick suffered no injuries, internal or external. He didn’t have a reaction to bear spray, the chief medical examiner reported.

                      So the single most important “fact” about the events of Jan. 6 was false. That leaves some questions.

                      First, who were the Gray Lady’s sources? The Times story quoted two anonymous “law-enforcement officials,” but anyone associated with the Capitol Police, or any investigation, should have known that Sicknick wasn’t struck in the head with a fire extinguisher. Having been misled by its sources, will the Times tell us who they were?

                      Will the Times apologize for its error? It could have independently confirmed its claims by checking with Sicknick’s family or with the hospital. Or the paper could simply have waited until it had definitive confirmation of the facts and refrained from reporting a falsehood in the meanwhile.

                      As leftist journalist Glenn Greenwald notes, the Times didn’t check the facts because the paper needed the story to be true. It was essential to the Narrative its editors had settled upon: namely, that Trump and his supporters were “insurrectionists” posing a violent threat to democracy.

                      Says Greenwald: “The gruesome story of Sicknick’s ‘murder’ was too valuable to allow any questioning . . . because if Sicknick weren’t murdered by them, then nobody was (without Sicknick, the only ones killed were four pro-Trump supporters: two who died of a heart attack, one from an amphetamine overdose and the other, Ashli Babbitt, who was shot point blank in the neck by Capitol Police despite being unarmed.”

                      Democratic lawmakers even repeated the false story of Sicknick’s death at Trump’s impeachment.

                      "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Will the Times apologize for lying about Officer Sicknick’s death?

                        An unruly crowd entered the US Capitol on Jan. 6, while then-President Donald Trump addressed a rally several blocks away. One member of that crowd, Ashli Babbitt, an unarmed woman and a veteran, was shot by the Capitol Police. The next day, Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick died in the hospital.

                        On Jan. 8, The New York Times reported that Officer Sicknick had died after being struck in the head with a fire extinguisher by violent Trump supporters. This story was quickly repeated by numerous other media outlets. Millions believed it.

                        The story was false.

                        Sicknick died of two strokes, which occurred many hours after the invasion of the Capitol. The blue-check-media fallback was that bear spray used by the Capitol invaders had caused the officer’s strokes.

                        That also turned out to be false. After a curiously long delay, the DC medical examiner’s office released its report this week, and it concludes that Sicknick suffered no injuries, internal or external. He didn’t have a reaction to bear spray, the chief medical examiner reported.

                        So the single most important “fact” about the events of Jan. 6 was false. That leaves some questions.

                        First, who were the Gray Lady’s sources? The Times story quoted two anonymous “law-enforcement officials,” but anyone associated with the Capitol Police, or any investigation, should have known that Sicknick wasn’t struck in the head with a fire extinguisher. Having been misled by its sources, will the Times tell us who they were?

                        Will the Times apologize for its error? It could have independently confirmed its claims by checking with Sicknick’s family or with the hospital. Or the paper could simply have waited until it had definitive confirmation of the facts and refrained from reporting a falsehood in the meanwhile.

                        As leftist journalist Glenn Greenwald notes, the Times didn’t check the facts because the paper needed the story to be true. It was essential to the Narrative its editors had settled upon: namely, that Trump and his supporters were “insurrectionists” posing a violent threat to democracy.

                        Says Greenwald: “The gruesome story of Sicknick’s ‘murder’ was too valuable to allow any questioning . . . because if Sicknick weren’t murdered by them, then nobody was (without Sicknick, the only ones killed were four pro-Trump supporters: two who died of a heart attack, one from an amphetamine overdose and the other, Ashli Babbitt, who was shot point blank in the neck by Capitol Police despite being unarmed.”

                        Democratic lawmakers even repeated the false story of Sicknick’s death at Trump’s impeachment.
                        Did the MSM ever apologize for the series of hoaxes that was the Collusion Delusion? Hardly. The MSM actually congratulated themselves in the thorough job they did

                        Likewise I'm sure the 'Dingy Dame' is sure they did a great job.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          Did the MSM ever apologize for the series of hoaxes that was the Collusion Delusion? Hardly. The MSM actually congratulated themselves in the thorough job they did

                          Likewise I'm sure the 'Dingy Dame' is sure they did a great job.
                          Yup - not sloppy journalism - deliberate lying and obfuscation.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                            Some JerkTM will no doubt be along shortly to malign your source. He is, after all, duty-bound to white knight for the Gray Lady.
                            Where's the fun in that when I can let your own story malign y'all instead?
                            .
                            So The New York Times on January 8 published an emotionally gut-wrenching but complete fiction that never had any evidence — that Officer Sicknick's skull was savagely bashed in with a fire extinguisher by a pro-Trump mob until he died ...

                            v.
                            .
                            The circumstances surrounding Mr. Sicknick's death were not immediately clear, and the Capitol Police said only that he had “passed away due to injuries sustained while on duty.” At some point in the chaos — with the mob rampaging through the halls of Congress while lawmakers were forced to hide under their desks — he was struck with a fire extinguisher, according to two law enforcement officials.

                            Go ahead, piglet, prove you're not duty bound to white knight fringe media.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

                              Where's the fun in that when I can let your own story malign y'all instead?
                              .
                              So The New York Times on January 8 published an emotionally gut-wrenching but complete fiction that never had any evidence — that Officer Sicknick's skull was savagely bashed in with a fire extinguisher by a pro-Trump mob until he died ...


                              v.
                              .
                              The circumstances surrounding Mr. Sicknick's death were not immediately clear, and the Capitol Police said only that he had “passed away due to injuries sustained while on duty.” At some point in the chaos — with the mob rampaging through the halls of Congress while lawmakers were forced to hide under their desks — he was struck with a fire extinguisher, according to two law enforcement officials.


                              Go ahead, piglet, prove you're not duty bound to white knight fringe media.
                              A couple other parts fit the bill a bit better.

                              A United States Capitol Police officer died on Thursday night from injuries sustained “while physically engaging” with pro-Trump rioters who descended on the U.S. Capitol the day before, the fifth fatality linked to the chaos that engulfed the nation’s capital on Wednesday, according to the authorities.


                              "The fifth fatality linked" but with a "link" that has no causality. Very sloppy reporting.

                              “He returned to his division office and collapsed,” the Capitol Police said in the statement. “He was taken to a local hospital, where he succumbed to his injuries.”


                              From my understanding he went home talked with or texted his brother and it was the next day that he collapsed. The picture the Times reporter drew here leads one to think that right after the riot when he got back to the station he keeled over and died. Of course that would serve to strengthen the narrative that they wanted to push, but I'm sure that's nothing but a coincidence.

                              Shall I continue?


                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

                                Where's the fun in that when I can let your own story malign y'all instead?
                                .
                                So The New York Times on January 8 published an emotionally gut-wrenching but complete fiction that never had any evidence — that Officer Sicknick's skull was savagely bashed in with a fire extinguisher by a pro-Trump mob until he died ...

                                v.
                                .
                                The circumstances surrounding Mr. Sicknick's death were not immediately clear, and the Capitol Police said only that he had “passed away due to injuries sustained while on duty.” At some point in the chaos — with the mob rampaging through the halls of Congress while lawmakers were forced to hide under their desks — he was struck with a fire extinguisher, according to two law enforcement officials.

                                Go ahead, piglet, prove you're not duty bound to white knight fringe media.
                                Even that second "version" was walked back, changning "two law enforcement officials" to something like "persons close to the white house". And, besides being factually incorrect - they were never identified.

                                "Law enforcement officials initially said Mr. Sicknick was struck with a fire extinguisher, but weeks later, police sources and investigators were at odds over whether he was hit. Medical experts have said he did not die of blunt force trauma, according to one law enforcement official."


                                So, another unnamed 'law enforcement official' is debunking the reports of 'two [unnamed] law enforcement officials' because it became impossible to maintain the narrative that Sicknick was physically struck with anything at all.
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