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Surprise! The ‘Russian Bounty’ Story - Turned Out To Be Fake News
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
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Originally posted by seanD View PostI'm trying to remember the trolls on here who were pushing it. I know Liconafan was pushing it HARD.
https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...in-afghanistan
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSurprise! The ‘Russian Bounty’ Story Hyped Up By Corrupt Media To Hurt Trump Turned Out To Be Fake News
APRIL 15, 2021 By Jordan Davidson
New reports show that U.S. intelligence had “low to moderate” confidence in a story peddled by leftists and their corrupt corporate media cronies last year. The anonymously sourced story claimed Russia offered members of the Taliban bounties in exchange for killing American soldiers.
“The United States intelligence community assesses with low to moderate confidence that Russian intelligence officers sought to encourage Taliban attacks U.S. and coalition personnel in Afghanistan in 2019 and perhaps earlier,” a senior administration official said on Thursday.
“U.S. intelligence community agencies have low to moderate confidence in this judgment in part because it relies on detainee reporting, and due to the challenging operating environment in Afghanistan, our conclusion is based on information and evidence of connections between criminal agents in Afghanistan and elements of the Russian government,” the official continued.
Last summer, corporate media outlets ranging from the Washington Post and the New York Times to CNN and MSNBC treated the claim from unnamed intelligence sources as gospel truth and used it to fuel their anti-Trump narratives ahead of the 2020 election. These are the same media outlets that peddled false narratives about the debunked Russia collusion hoax.
Seems that the govt has been connecting the dots. They determined that Manafort, who ran Trump's first election campaign, directed Gates to provide sensitive polling data to a Russian spy, and there is now evidence that that spy passed that info to the Kremlin.
It is not a hoax.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Yes, I'm aware of that - but it doesn't mean they aren't truthfully assembling other sources into a story.
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Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
FYI.
The Federalist is a 501c3 organization, funded by a small number of anonymous donors. It generates no meaningful revenue. Its donor list is generally protected, though foundation funding can be determined from their required 990 disclosures, and includes DonorsTrust (2019 records, PDF, p. 54)
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and the Ed Uihlein Foundation (2019 records, PDF, p. 12).
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It would appear that they lack sufficient credibility to support confidence in their charges of corruption. I'll leave it to others to judge any distinction between irony and the chutzpah of a privately-funded media outlet deflecting claims of corruption onto advertiser- and reader-supported media, and similarly, whether "low to moderate confidence" can justifiably be translated as false.
My focus is on supporting public health measures in the current pandemic that has taken more lives in one year in the US than any military conflict in our history, and is fast approaching the final toll of our most costly conflict, the Civil War, numerically if not proportionately. As such, the Federalist attracts my attention as it has provided a consistent voice against public health measures directed toward reducing the toll of the Covid-19 pandemic.
Thoughtful readers may wish to consider whether positions in clear opposition to science can honestly be cast as political.
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BBC:
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Axios:
All the above continue at their respective hyperlinks except the last one which was short and pithy enough to include in its entirety.
As the source I originally cited noted when they say that Intelligence officials have "low to moderate" confidence in the reports,
Translated from the jargon of spyworld, that means the intelligence agencies have found the story is, at best, unproven -- and possibly untrue.
So these reports never arose to a level higher than a unsubstantiated rumor, it is a good thing that calmer, wiser heads prevailed and we didn't escalate tensions over a baseless claim.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
The Federalist is a 501c3 organization, funded by a small number of anonymous donors. It generates no meaningful revenue. Its donor list is generally protected, though foundation funding can be determined from their required 990 disclosures, and includes DonorsTrust (2019 records, PDF, p. 54)
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and the Ed Uihlein Foundation (2019 records, PDF, p. 12).
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It would appear that they lack sufficient credibility to support confidence in their charges of corruption. I'll leave it to others to judge any distinction between irony and the chutzpah of a privately-funded media outlet deflecting claims of corruption onto advertiser- and reader-supported media, and similarly, whether "low to moderate confidence" can justifiably be translated as false.
My focus is on supporting public health measures in the current pandemic that has taken more lives in one year in the US than any military conflict in our history, and is fast approaching the final toll of our most costly conflict, the Civil War, numerically if not proportionately. As such, the Federalist attracts my attention as it has provided a consistent voice against public health measures directed toward reducing the toll of the Covid-19 pandemic.
Thoughtful readers may wish to consider whether positions in clear opposition to science can honestly be cast as political.
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It never made much sense.
1) Why place a bounty on the heads of Americans when they were already targets? How is money going to motivate people who are already motivated by philosophy?
2) How would it benefit Russia if more Americans died? Keep us in Afghanistan longer? Make us leave earlier? Neither is a boon to Russia.
3) Why engage in something that has little-to-no-gain, but massive risk to reputation and prestige on the world stage (if caught)?
No, it never smelled right. It was just another "Russia Boogeyman" story by the MSM to put Trump in a bad spot.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Yeah, there were several who were full-blown outraged that Trump would ignore such a diabolical [fake] plot.
Even at the time it was clear this was nothing but a rumor but if Trump didn't escalate hostilities over it then he was a traitor who hated the troops.
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I'm trying to remember the trolls on here who were pushing it. I know Liconafan was pushing it HARD.
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