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    Biden set to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan by Sept. 11

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Joe Biden plans to withdraw the remaining 2,500 U.S. troops from Afghanistan by Sept. 11, 2021, 20 years to the day after the al Qaeda attacks that triggered America’s longest war, U.S. officials said on Tuesday. The disclosure of the plan came on the same day that the U.S. intelligence community released a gloomy outlook for Afghanistan, forecasting “low” chances of a peace deal this year and warning that its government would struggle to hold the Taliban insurgency at bay if the U.S.-led coalition withdraws support.

    Biden’s decision would miss a May 1 deadline for withdrawal agreed to with the Taliban by his predecessor Donald Trump. The insurgents had threatened to resume hostilities against foreign troops if that deadline was missed. But Biden would still be setting a near-term withdrawal date, potentially allaying Taliban concerns. The Democratic president will publicly announce his decision on Wednesday, the White House said. A senior Biden administration official said the pullout would begin before May 1 and could be complete well before the Sept. 11 deadline. Significantly, it will not would be subject to further conditions, including security or human rights.

    “The president has judged that a conditions-based approach, which has been the approach of the past two decades, is a recipe in staying in Afghanistan forever,” the official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said in a briefing with reporters...


    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idINKBN2C028S

    This is promising, if Biden follows through (which I doubt). More than anything else, the US is not obligated to play policeman in Afghanistan for eternity. If there is anarchy there, let those in the immediate vicinity deal with it. It is THEIR problem, not ours.

    No more dead American kids for foreign conflicts.

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    One thing virtually all military commanders will agree on is that if you decide to withdraw, that you never, EVER announce a date.

    What a bunch of morons.

    I'm always still in trouble again

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    • #3
      Wonder if intelligence will accuse Biden of ignoring bounties being put on US troops by the Russians in order to stop it. Guess we'll find out just how partisan driven the Pentagon is when it comes to dismantling their voracious appetite for war.
      "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        One thing virtually all military commanders will agree on is that if you decide to withdraw, that you never, EVER announce a date.

        What a bunch of morons.
        They should wake up one morning and wonder where the US Troops went.
        "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ronson View Post
          Biden set to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan by Sept. 11

          WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Joe Biden plans to withdraw the remaining 2,500 U.S. troops from Afghanistan by Sept. 11, 2021, 20 years to the day after the al Qaeda attacks that triggered America’s longest war, U.S. officials said on Tuesday. The disclosure of the plan came on the same day that the U.S. intelligence community released a gloomy outlook for Afghanistan, forecasting “low” chances of a peace deal this year and warning that its government would struggle to hold the Taliban insurgency at bay if the U.S.-led coalition withdraws support.

          Biden’s decision would miss a May 1 deadline for withdrawal agreed to with the Taliban by his predecessor Donald Trump. The insurgents had threatened to resume hostilities against foreign troops if that deadline was missed. But Biden would still be setting a near-term withdrawal date, potentially allaying Taliban concerns. The Democratic president will publicly announce his decision on Wednesday, the White House said. A senior Biden administration official said the pullout would begin before May 1 and could be complete well before the Sept. 11 deadline. Significantly, it will not would be subject to further conditions, including security or human rights.

          “The president has judged that a conditions-based approach, which has been the approach of the past two decades, is a recipe in staying in Afghanistan forever,” the official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said in a briefing with reporters...


          https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idINKBN2C028S

          This is promising, if Biden follows through (which I doubt). More than anything else, the US is not obligated to play policeman in Afghanistan for eternity. If there is anarchy there, let those in the immediate vicinity deal with it. It is THEIR problem, not ours.

          No more dead American kids for foreign conflicts.
          I think we all know this ain't happening, sadly. He'll come up with some excuse by sept 11 on why we need to keep troops there.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            One thing virtually all military commanders will agree on ...
            I don't even think that's true. Besides, such announcements always come with caveats. The arguments I've heard against setting a date have been fatally flawed, in my opinion. A date certain cannot help but encourage both sides to step up. A side that isn't encouraged is a side that will never be able to stand on their own, a total loss being held back by a finger in the dike, a side that doesn't deserve support.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

              I think we all know this ain't happening, sadly. He'll come up with some excuse by sept 11 on why we need to keep troops there.
              I agree only if there isn't some reason for this, like they're gearing up for a war with either China (over Taiwan) or Russia (over Ukraine) or Iran (if they go to war with Israel). If there's not another war on the horizon, then this will never happen.
              "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

                I don't even think that's true. Besides, such announcements always come with caveats. The arguments I've heard against setting a date have been fatally flawed, in my opinion. A date certain cannot help but encourage both sides to step up. A side that isn't encouraged is a side that will never be able to stand on their own, a total loss being held back by a finger in the dike, a side that doesn't deserve support.
                Your side knowing the pull out date is a totally different beast than foolishly announcing it to the enemy so that they know it as well.

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  Your side knowing the pull out date is a totally different beast than foolishly announcing it to the enemy so that they know it as well.
                  Respectfully, if your side knows the pull-out date, so does their enemy.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

                    Respectfully, if your side knows the pull-out date, so does their enemy.
                    Respectfully, they have nothing but a rumor which can be seriously muddied by constantly leaking various dates.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #11
                      It warms the cockles of my heart that you guys are so very respectful of one another.
                      "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        It warms the cockles of my heart that you guys are so very respectful of one another.
                        Next time you're way out in the field and need to take a poop, please be sure to be wearing spurs when you squat

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          Next time you're way out in the field and need to take a poop, please be sure to be wearing spurs when you squat
                          That's one of the FIRST things a Texas dad will share as part of "the talk". Along with "never kick a fresh cow patty".
                          "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                            [box]Biden set to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan by Sept. 11

                            WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Joe Biden plans to withdraw the remaining 2,500 U.S. troops from Afghanistan by Sept. 11, 2021, 20 years to the day after the al Qaeda attacks that triggered America’s longest war, U.S. officials said on Tuesday..
                            Technically, no peace treaty was ever signed with North Korea. That will make 71 years this coming June 25.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Faber View Post

                              Technically, no peace treaty was ever signed with North Korea. That will make 71 years this coming June 25.
                              Well, yeah, but the two leaders had a huggy session in 2018, so it's gonna happen any minute now!!!

                              koreas_summit.jpg
                              "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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