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Originally posted by kccd View Post
Not to mention that after it had been decided, she was blamed for this happening. Should she not speak up to defend herself?
As you say yourself, there is no evidence that she objected to the move nor is there evidence that she is responsible for it.
OTOH, my brother has many connections within MLB and especially the Atlanta Braves organization (one of his closest friends is All of Fame pitcher Tom Glavine), and he's been talking with them about this -- and we talked a few days ago for about an hour or so where it came up.
Through him I know the names or positions of some of those MLB officials. I also know that at least one of those with the Braves who was privy to what was going on pretty much as it happened, who is saying that Abrams was the motivating force behind the move from Atlanta.
What all of them agree on is that Abrams and her group, along with the others laid out so many nonnegotiable demands, wanting far, far more than the pregame ceremony celebrating Hank Aaron (who died a short time ago) that would turn into a reminder of how the sport had been strictly segregated for nearly the entire first half of the last century and ending in a celebrating of black's numerous contributions to the game itself. They pretty much wanted to turn it into some sort of quasi-BLM rally and threatening a boycott if their demands weren't met.
Several say Abrams was encouraging the boycott where as a few say that can't be sure that she actually supported it because she wasn't present when the threat of a boycott was officially issued. A couple of those who think she was encouraging it believe she didn't attend because she wanted just this sort of deniability. They (as others have as well), pointed to how Abrams pretty much started this show having registered the domain name Jim Crow 2.0 a couple of weeks prior to this started, as evidence as well as how her group was at the center of everything right up to that meeting.
And they point to how there were several different "rumors" right before the boycott threat was issued that Abrams wanted the game moved in a protest by MLB that would be even bigger than Coke and Delta's ignorant denunciation.
Well these two camps hold different views but both hold her responsible. The first think she supported the boycott which resulted in the move to a "less controversial venue." The second was that it isn't known for certain that she did support the boycott but the actions she took, the continually stoking of the flames (the hyperbole that was reported as fact in the MSM but earned old Joe four Pinocchios when he repeated it) brought it on.
I should note my relating of this is all second and even some third hand hearsay, but only a little over a year ago this was the gold standard for impeccable evidence for y'all so I'm sure you'll give it the same courtesy
(I need to find a holding my breath smiley)Last edited by rogue06; 04-12-2021, 11:31 AM.
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"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Well, if Trump is responsible for people deciding to riot at the capitol after he talked about an election being stolen, then it seems fair that Abrams can be held responsible for the economic damage that came from businesses deciding to take economic action against Georgia in response to her talking about the voter law.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe news stories that mention how she was right in the middle of the whole mess are all using the "senior MLB officials" thing meaning anonymous sources
OTOH, my brother has many connections within MLB and especially the Atlanta Braves organization (one of his closest friends is All of Fame pitcher Tom Glavine), and he's been talking with them about this -- and we talked a few days ago for about an hour or so where it came up.
Through him I know the names or positions of some of those MLB officials. I also know that at least one of those with the Braves who was privy to what was going on pretty much as it happened, who is saying that Abrams was the motivating force behind the move from Atlanta.
What all of them agree on is that Abrams and her group, along with the others laid out so many nonnegotiable demands, wanting far, far more than the pregame ceremony celebrating Hank Aaron (who died a short time ago) that would turn into a reminder of how the sport had been strictly segregated for nearly the entire first half of the last century and ending in a celebrating of black's numerous contributions to the game itself. They pretty much wanted to turn it into some sort of quasi-BLM rally and threatening a boycott if their demands weren't met.
Several say Abrams was encouraging the boycott where as a few say that can't be sure that she actually supported it because she wasn't present when the threat of a boycott was officially issued. A couple of those who think she was encouraging it believe she didn't attend because she wanted just this sort of deniability. They (as others have as well), pointed to how Abrams pretty much started this show having registered the domain name Jim Crow 2.0 a couple of weeks prior to this started, as evidence as well as how her group was at the center of everything right up to that meeting.
And they point to how there were several different "rumors" right before the boycott threat was issued that Abrams wanted the game moved in a protest by MLB that would be even bigger than Coke and Delta's ignorant denunciation.
Well these two camps hold different views but both hold her responsible. The first think she supported the boycott which resulted in the move to a "less controversial venue." The second was that it isn't known for certain that she did support the boycott but the actions she took, the continually stoking of the flames (the hyperbole that was reported as fact in the MSM but earned old Joe four Pinocchios when he repeated it) brought it on.
I should note my relating of this is all second and even some third hand hearsay, but only a little over a year ago this was the gold standard for impeccable evidence for y'all so I'm sure you'll give it the same courtesy
(I need to find a holding my breath smiley)
The fact that she was vocally opposed to the GA voter suppression efforts is not surprising, but does not mean that she was instrumental in getting this MLB move.
Excusing your reliance on hearsay does not remotely mean that liberals do the same thing. Projection.
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Originally posted by kccd View PostOK, so all of what you reported is hearsay.
Originally posted by kccd View PostAnd that included admission that Abrams was not present when the boycott was announced.
Originally posted by kccd View PostThe fact that she was vocally opposed to the GA voter suppression efforts is not surprising, but does not mean that she was instrumental in getting this MLB move.
Originally posted by kccd View PostExcusing your reliance on hearsay does not remotely mean that liberals do the same thing. Projection.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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UPDATE:
Here are two news stories of interest, the first notes that the boycott movement has largely collapsed as the truth emerged. This verifies things that I've heard about how some of the companies that jumped on the bandwagon have quietly jumped back off of it while others are seeking a way to spin their decision.
The second reveals how segments of the MSM are busy trying to save Abrams image, including altering past stories by removing inconvenient facts and statements as well as inserting new material and later quotes that better serve the narrative.
This next one deals directly with the shenanigans taking place at USA Today and their attempts to rewrite history.
According to the Internet Archive, the op-ed was revised on April 6th, but a notice acknowledging it was "Updated" wasn't added until April 22 -- after folks started pointing out what they had done.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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