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  • #31
    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    I would also expect that if a staff member did post it of his own accord, and it did not reflect the senator's beliefs, that he would have immediately issued a counter statement declaring so. Instead, he just deleted it and, I guess, he's hoping it blows over. To his credit, he at least he had the good sense to not double down, so there may be some hope for him.
    Yeah, if somebody made such a statement on my behalf, I wouldn't just delete it and hope it goes away -- I'd very clearly counter it with my actual statement of belief - loud and clear. And, most likely point out that a staff member no longer works for my organization.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #32
      Well stated piece in the National Review that starts off showing Warnock's tweet (same one in the OP), following with:

      Source: Raphael Warnock’s Dubious Easter Message


      One could imagine hearing this from a legislator of a different faith on the holiest of Christian holidays, but from a man who uses his religious authority as a political tool, it was a stunning display of theological ignorance. Nothing, nothing, is more transcendent than God’s only begotten son becoming man, dying to absolve humanity of its sin, rising again, and consigning Satan, sin, and death to a final, eternal defeat. Easter is about man’s rescue by God Almighty, not “sav[ing] ourselves” through some kind of secular self-improvement scheme. For all intents and purposes, Easter is Christianity.

      I write about this not just to dunk on a preacher who could use a Sunday School refresher, but to point out a pernicious trend Warnock’s since-deleted tweet represents. Easter means something specific to a specific group of people who believe its story not to be a parable, but rather the most important event in human history. Why is it that progressives are so determined to make every holiday, tradition, and custom more abstract and “inclusive” at the expense of those who celebrate and practice them? It’s a tendency that not only does a disservice to the world’s many holidays, religions, and cultures, but also robs newcomers of the opportunity to fully understand and appreciate their true meaning and beauty.

      Easter doesn’t need a “more transcendent” (read: generalized and boring) meaning. It already has the most important and delightful one of all.


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      I've noticed several news accounts refer to how Warnock deleted the tweet due to pressure from the right (i.e., Sen Raphael Warnock Deletes Easter Tweet After Backlash From Religious Right), but this something that all Christians, regardless of mere political leanings, should be outspoken over




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      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #33
        We Christians should have long since abandoned the KJV "Easter" terminology, and replaced it with the more textually accurate "Passover," or better, the more theologically accurate, Resurrection Day.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
          We Christians should have long since abandoned the KJV "Easter" terminology, and replaced it with the more textually accurate "Passover," or better, the more theologically accurate, Resurrection Day.
          Passover only occasionally lines up so that it occurs in sync with the events of the crucifixion/resurrection. So it makes sense to disconnect it from the actual Passover if one wants an annual celebration that aligns on the same days of the week ending with resurrection Sunday.

          the down side with doing that is that creates just that much more of a disconnect from the Jewish roots of the faith, which i sometimes wonder if that did not make it a little easier for Christians to later persecute Jews.
          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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          • #35
            Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
            We Christians should have long since abandoned the KJV "Easter" terminology, and replaced it with the more textually accurate "Passover," or better, the more theologically accurate, Resurrection Day.
            I have been disciplining myself to say Resurrection Day instead of Easter.

            And, this year, I have officially ended the annual "Easter Egg Hunt" at our Church. I never liked it, but I inherited it, and it wasn't "the hill I wanted to die on".
            I proposed, however, that this would be our last year, and I was pleasantly surprised at the general agreement, and no apparent opposition.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

              I have been disciplining myself to say Resurrection Day instead of Easter.
              You're just trying to confuse all those liberals who wrote about "Easter worshipers" a few years ago who were murdered by Islamic terrorists, aren't you?

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                I have been disciplining myself to say Resurrection Day instead of Easter.

                And, this year, I have officially ended the annual "Easter Egg Hunt" at our Church. I never liked it, but I inherited it, and it wasn't "the hill I wanted to die on".
                I proposed, however, that this would be our last year, and I was pleasantly surprised at the general agreement, and no apparent opposition.
                I know a lot of churches promote Easter egg hunt events as "community outreach" and will include things like Bible pamphlets and invitations to attend church services in the goodie bags they give away.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                  I know a lot of churches promote Easter egg hunt events as "community outreach" and will include things like Bible pamphlets and invitations to attend church services in the goodie bags they give away.
                  I'm sure that was the intent of this one, but I can think of better alternatives.
                  We have had, at other churches, a Halloween alternative that involved no witches or goblins, because I don't believe in cheating the kids out of a good time 'just because'.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #39
                    Just in general, I don't see any way that it can be a good idea for somebody to simultaneously be a pastor and a politician at a high level. Both are full time jobs well beyond 40 hours, to say the least. Also, politics pretty much requires the sort of compromises with the world that are likely to bring reproach on the gospel, even if unintentionally. (This isn't to say that a pastor shouldn't be on a local school board or something like that; I wouldn't see why that would be a problem.)
                    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                      Just in general, I don't see any way that it can be a good idea for somebody to simultaneously be a pastor and a politician at a high level. Both are full time jobs well beyond 40 hours, to say the least. Also, politics pretty much requires the sort of compromises with the world that are likely to bring reproach on the gospel, even if unintentionally. (This isn't to say that a pastor shouldn't be on a local school board or something like that; I wouldn't see why that would be a problem.)
                      Yeah, it seems to me that a pastor who wants to "rise" to politics has pretty well let go of the plow and is looking back.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
                        WHy in the world would I give a flying turd about Christian values or their nonsensical commandments? I'm an atheist, genius.
                        Yawn. It's pretty obvious you're a Christian pretending to be an atheist for trolling purposes. You're acting out all the false stereotypes about what Christians believe atheists would be like. Whatever, I'll leave you to your trolling.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
                          Yawn. It's pretty obvious you're a Christian pretending to be an atheist for trolling purposes. You're acting out all the false stereotypes about what Christians believe atheists would be like. Whatever, I'll leave you to your trolling.
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            No True Atheist...
                            FIFY n/c

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by dimwit View Post
                              Yawn. It's pretty obvious you're a Christian pretending to be an atheist for trolling purposes. You're acting out all the false stereotypes about what Christians believe atheists would be like. Whatever, I'll leave you to your trolling.
                              I'm an atheist. You're welcome to deny reality in order to prevent embarrassment at getting it wrong. But I've been an atheist for decades. I'm sorry you don't like it, I'm sorry you don't like that I have different views on things than you. That doesn't magically make me believe in a Edited by a Moderator.

                              Last edited by Cow Poke; 04-08-2021, 08:57 AM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                                Yawn. It's pretty obvious you're a Christian pretending to be an atheist for trolling purposes. You're acting out all the false stereotypes about what Christians believe atheists would be like. Whatever, I'll leave you to your trolling.
                                Gond has been an atheist, and presenting himself as such for the entire time I've known him (over a decade).

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