The happiest countries are liberal countries

[Cow Poke]

My answer in my country would be the opposite.

Dangerous criminals in my country are largely poor people of color. And that demographic skews very religious. Atheists are far more likely to be well-off white people, and that's not the demographic here that's going to hurt you in a dark alley.

Interesting - our "poor people of color" who would be 'the criminal element' tend to be those who have rejected religion.

[Ronson]

My answer in my country would be the opposite.

Dangerous criminals in my country are largely poor people of color. And that demographic skews very religious. Atheists are far more likely to be well-off white people, and that's not the demographic here that's going to hurt you in a dark alley.

Removing the element of "white" or "people of color", the question is meant to highlight a religious or irreligious worldview. As many atheists have argued in the past, the only thing atheists share with each other is a lack of God. Would a mob (or group) of people with subjective moral compasses be more trustworthy following you in a dark alley, or would a mob (or group) of Christians? Even being irreligious, I chose the Christians. IMO, there is far less chance they would intend to rob or assault me.

[Ronson]

Interesting - our "poor people of color" who would be 'the criminal element' tend to be those who have rejected religion.

Being white, I would prefer to be followed by a group of black Christians than a group of white atheists.

[Starlight]

Would a mob (or group) of people with subjective moral compasses be more trustworthy following you in a dark alley, or would a mob (or group) of Christians?

I would generally regard atheists as tending to have objective moral compasses, and religious people subjective ones. For the religious it's entirely up to which religious verses they happen to prefer, how they prefer to interpret them, what their local church and denomination happens to teach, and which religion they happen to be, as to what a religious person's moral compass is going to be... they could land anywhere from a Mother Theresa to the Spanish Inquisition to ISIS. Whereas an atheist is going to have their worldview shaped by objective truths, so going to tend to have a more predictable and objective moral compass.

[seer]

I would generally regard atheists as tending to have objective moral compasses, and religious people subjective ones. For the religious it's entirely up to which religious verses they happen to prefer, how they prefer to interpret them, what their local church and denomination happens to teach, and which religion they happen to be, as to what a religious person's moral compass is going to be... they could land anywhere from a Mother Theresa to the Spanish Inquisition to ISIS. Whereas an atheist is going to have their worldview shaped by objective truths, so going to tend to have a more predictable and objective moral compass.

That is just stupid, there is no objective moral compass attached to atheism or atheists... Can you name five or six great atheist moral leaders?

[Starlight]

FiveThirtyEight: Are Prisoners Less Likely To Be Atheists?

almost 1 in every 1,000 prisoners will identify as atheist compared to 1 in every 100 Americans... Atheists are underrepresented.

That suggests that if you're walking down a dark alley in the US, you should hope the group walking toward you are atheists.

[Mountain Man]

Interesting - our "poor people of color" who would be 'the criminal element' tend to be those who have rejected religion.

There's also the question of cause and effect: are people unhappy because they're religious, or religious because they're unhappy? And the opposite, are people happy because they're irreligious, or irreligious because they're happy?

[Mountain Man]

FiveThirtyEight: Are Prisoners Less Likely To Be Atheists?

almost 1 in every 1,000 prisoners will identify as atheist compared to 1 in every 100 Americans... Atheists are underrepresented.

That suggests that if you're walking down a dark alley in the US, you should hope the group walking toward you are atheists.

Are you really that stupid, or are you hoping we are?

Do you have any idea how many people in prison find religion?

[seer]

Do you have any idea how many people in prison find religion?

About 3/4ths of my prison bible study classes.

[Cow Poke]

I would generally regard atheists as tending to have objective moral compasses, and religious people subjective ones. For the religious it's entirely up to which religious verses they happen to prefer, how they prefer to interpret them, what their local church and denomination happens to teach, and which religion they happen to be, as to what a religious person's moral compass is going to be hey could land anywhere from a Mother Theresa...

There are basic biblical principles on which we Christians agree, central to them is the Golden Rule -- that's pretty standard as a moral compass. And you're about to go extreme...

to the Spanish Inquisition to ISIS.

Yeah, I don't know any Christians who think the Spanish Inquisition (which nobody ever anticipates) was such a good idea --- that's why it's always used as an extreme example.
Can you not think of any atheists who have foisted massive pain and suffering on untold millions of people?

Whereas an atheist is going to have their worldview shaped by objective truths, so going to tend to have a more predictable and objective moral compass.

Truths like Christians and Jews must die?

So, you're trying to compare the atheists of today with religious atrocities way in the past. And ISIS is, by no means, Christianity, as you well know.

[Cow Poke]

About 3/4ths of my prison bible study classes.

I had posted about the Louisiana prison where the warden was actually shipping prisoners from his Bible College (yes college in prison) to other prisons because, there was a general revival going on, and crime in prison was way down. Most of these were black criminals who had rejected Christianity, but "came to themselves" (prodigal son) in prison, or became new Christians.

[Cow Poke]

That is just stupid, there is no objective moral compass attached to atheism or atheists... Can you name five or six great atheist moral leaders?

I can, and did, list a whole bunch of psychotic atheist mass murderers. I certainly wouldn't want to meet ANY of them in a dark ally, or ANYWHERE!

[Starlight]

That is just stupid, there is no objective moral compass attached to atheism or atheists...

Given the top ten happiest countries are all among the least religious countries in the world, it does seem atheism makes for a less crime-prone, and more peaceable society.

I did point out in a recent thread in apologetics that empirical cross-cultural research shows that the most universal moral code is that held by liberals in Western societies... i.e. typical of the countries listed in the top-10 happiest in the OP. You never responded to that thread in apologetics.

Can you name five or six great atheist moral leaders?

Why would something universal need a singular leader? Leaders are for subjective things, where the leader says it and it is so. That is why you have religious leaders, to subjectively teach their own version of religion.

For the sake of completeness of answer, I would say that historically the most famous historical ethical philosophers in the Western tradition were probably Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Seneca, Epicurius, Marcus Aurelius, Hume, Kant, Bentham, and John Stuart Mill, but that's a somewhat arbitrary list and your mileage may vary (e.g. here is someone else's list based on some sort of polling, but the only one in their top 9 who isn't also in my list is Hobbs). Kant's the only one in that list, I think, who could be said to be absolutely and definitely religious (and Christian). The rest were generally regarded by the people around them as being pretty strongly against the religion of their day and called 'atheists' by those around them, even if some of them held some sort of spiritual beliefs.

Perhaps the two most famous ethical philosophers in the last 30 years are Peter Singer and John Rawls, both atheists, though Rawls was initially a Christian.

[seer]

I had posted about the Louisiana prison where the warden was actually shipping prisoners from his Bible College (yes college in prison) to other prisons because, there was a general revival going on, and crime in prison was way down. Most of these were black criminals who had rejected Christianity, but "came to themselves" (prodigal son) in prison, or became new Christians.

My classes were about 90% black. Though I didn't have the revival of the kind above.

[Cow Poke]

My classes were about 90% black. Though I didn't have the revival of the kind above.

The warden in Louisiana actually "traded" some of his prisoners who graduated their Bible College Degree program to Texas prisons (a foreign exchange program? ) to help start our prison Bible College classes here.