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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
'At Grace Church School, we use inclusive language that reflects this diversity. It's important to refrain from making assumptions about who kids live with, who cares for them, whether they sleep in the same place every night, whether they see their parents, etc.'That's what
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
Emphasis for hilarity...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
But why drop "Church" from their name? MANY Churches in the US operate with pretty much not "Christian" influence at all, being so 'inclusive' that they have become 'the world'.
I suspect many of them retain the "church" role because of the tax exemption, which puts the tax exemption in peril for those churches actually operating as churches.
(and, lemme be clear - if they were to strip our tax exemption, we'd still be 'the church')Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt is becoming increasingly common for churches in the US to think it is loving to tolerate and even embrace sin.
They seem to have forgotten that the whole point of welcoming sinners into the church is to bring them to repentance and not to make them comfortable with sinning.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd the 'example' they like to use most is the woman caught in adultery, whom Jesus did not condemn. They conveniently leave off the part about "go and sin no more".Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWoke $57k-a-year NYC school bans students from saying mom and dad, asking where classmates went on vacation and wishing ‘Merry Christmas' or 'Happy Holidays'- Grace Church School in NoHo, which costs $57k a year, has offered a 12-page guide for staff, students and parents on 'inclusive language'
- 'Mom', 'Dad' or 'parents' are outlawed for 'grown-ups, folks, family or guardian'
- It urges them not to wish anyone a 'Merry Christmas' or even a 'Happy Holidays'
- And asks for an end to questions on where a person went on vacation
- 'As part of our Episcopal identity, we recognize the dignity and worth common to humanity,' the school said of the guide
- It comes as conservatives in NYC complain that the Big Apple's private schools have been infiltrated by a hard-left mentality
Published: 17:20 EST, 10 March 2021 | Updated: 19:51 EST, 10 March 2021
A woke Manhattan school that charges parents $57,000 a year has issued a glossary of terms they claim will make the facility a more 'inclusive' place.
Grace Church School in NoHo has offered a 12-page guide to staff, students and parents that encourages them to stop using 'mom' and 'dad', to stop asking classmates where they may have gone on vacation. and urges them not to wish anyone a 'Merry Christmas' - or even a 'Happy Holidays'.
The Episcopal school also offers courses and after-school programs for its students that include single-gender groups, a Roots of Empathy program, and a course called 'Allying: Why? Who? and How?' which is offered to seniors.
The curriculum for that particular program, according to the City Journal, includes a photograph of a burning police car in a 'zine called 'Accomplices not Allies'.
The photograph is teamed with a declaration that 'the work of an accomplice in anti-colonial struggle is to attack colonial structures & ideas'.
students and parents which asks them to stop using words such as mom, dad, and parents
'Mom', 'Dad' or 'parents' are also outlawed for 'grown-ups, folks, family or guardian'
Asking someone 'what religion are you?' is outlawed in favor of 'Are any religious/faith traditions important to you?' (as pictured from the gudie above)
Grace Church school issued its 'inclusion glossary' for 2021 which it claims will 'remove harmful assumptions from the way we interact with each other'.
'While we recognize hateful language that promotes racism, misogyny, homophobia, and other forms of discrimination are already addressed in our school handbooks, we also recognize that we can do more than ban hateful language; we can use language to create welcoming and inclusive spaces,' it states.
The guide also warns readers to 'be aware that people may not always welcome questions, and they are not obligated to respond'.
Rev. Robert M. Pennoyer II, the assistant head of school, City Journal in a statement that the decision was made to introduce the glossary as Grace is an Episcopal school.
'As part of our Episcopal identity, we recognize the dignity and worth common to humanity,' he said.
He added that the guide comes 'from our desire to promote a sense of belonging for all of our students'.
Among the topics covered in the guide is the language surrounding gender, families, sexual orientation, race and ethnicity, religion, disability, and socioeconomics.
Under gender, it urges for 'boys and girls', 'guys', 'ladies and gentlemen' to be abandoned in favor of the likes of 'people', 'folks', 'friends', 'readers', or even 'mathematicians'.
It even encourages for those terms to be changed when reading books, using child, person, or character instead of 'the boy/girl on this page'.
And pet names are out of the question, with 'sweetheart' and 'honey' to be replaced only with the child's name or a description of what the child is wearing if that is not known.
'Mom', 'Dad' or 'parents' are also outlawed for 'grown-ups, folks, family or guardian'.
Nanny and babysitter must also be change to caregiver or guardian.
'Families are formed and structured in many ways,' the school states.
'At Grace Church School, we use inclusive language that reflects this diversity. It's important to refrain from making assumptions about who kids live with, who cares for them, whether they sleep in the same place every night, whether they see their parents, etc.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Vl_Lbz3kiryySc
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Original school document is here: https://pdfhost.io/v/MSUTbDaqD_GCS_I...uide_21pdf.pdf
Coincidentally, my daughter is looking for a pre-school for her son, and is likely to send him to a pricey Episcopalian school, but the school they are looking at seems like a normal school that is well-regarded and has an emphasis on learning.
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Originally posted by kccd View Post
I am pretty left-wing, but this is beyond ridiculous. I would certainly not want to have my kids or grandkids at this school.
Coincidentally, my daughter is looking for a pre-school for her son, and is likely to send him to a pricey Episcopalian school, but the school they are looking at seems like a normal school that is well-regarded and has an emphasis on learning.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
This is the direction the left is headed -- you may soon be identified as "middle of the road" or "very moderate" left.
The USA is currently an outlier. Our political arena has been progressively pushed further and further to the right, dragging the center in that direction.
Remember when Republicans like Ike warned against the military-industrial complex and Nixon set up the EPA? Times have changed.
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Originally posted by kccd View Post
Actually, in other developed countries, my views would be considered centrist.
The USA is currently an outlier. Our political arena has been progressively pushed further and further to the right, dragging the center in that direction.
Remember when Republicans like Ike warned against the military-industrial complex and Nixon set up the EPA? Times have changed.
It was noted even a generation ago that Democrats like JFK would be regarded as right wingers
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by rogue06 View Postpoint-and-laugh.gif
It was noted even a generation ago that Democrats like JFK would be regarded as right wingers
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Originally posted by kccd View Post
What other major political party in developed countries denies climate change, refuses to consider universal healthcare, refuses to consider paid maternity leave, and is OK with teaching creationism in public school science classes?
Our political arena has been progressively pushed further and further to the right, dragging the center in that direction.
But let's go back 50 years and tell me one major issue that we've moved to the right on.
Abortion? Hardly.
Gay marriage? Get real.
Drug legalization? Look around.
Acceptance of fornification/adultery? Not just accepted but expected.
Increase in government dependency? Yup.
Massive growth in government? You betchya.
Immigration? Effectively open borders.
About the only thing that hasn't shifted drastically to the left is gun control, which has stayed pretty much the same but get ready for a big fight over that later this year.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post[BOX]Woke $57k-a-year NYC school bans students from saying mom and dad, asking where classmates went on vacation and wishing ‘Merry Christmas' or 'Happy Holidays'
That is not precisely the same as your thread title suggests. The school is not issuing a "ban" it is simply encouraging different terms to be used."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYour claim was that
Our political arena has been progressively pushed further and further to the right, dragging the center in that direction.
But let's go back 50 years and tell me one major issue that we've moved to the right on.
Abortion? Hardly.
Gay marriage? Get real.
Drug legalization? Look around.
Acceptance of fornification/adultery? Not just accepted but expected.
Increase in government dependency? Yup.
Massive growth in government? You betchya.
Immigration? Effectively open borders.
About the only thing that hasn't shifted drastically to the left is gun control, which has stayed pretty much the same but get ready for a big fight over that later this year.
Gay marriage - OK that has moved left. As gays have come out of the closet, many conservatives find they have friends and family members who are gay and these conservatives are more likely to see them as people.
Drug legalization. The right wing war on drugs has been an abject failure. Does it make sense to do more of the same, or recognize that some drugs are actually less dangerous than alcohol? But I take your point and this is a move to the left.
Acceptance of fornication/adultery? Trump was and is supported by conservatives including evangelicals!!! Fornication/adultery is clearly OK with the right. Roy Moore almost won in Alabama.
Govt dependency. Which states get more in federal aid than they pay in taxes? Red States.
Growth in govt? Check the numbers for Repub vs Dem administrations. You will be surprised.
No Dem advocates for open borders. That is a right wing lie. Ensuring fairness at our borders is an American tradition embodied by the Statue of Liberty. Should we take that down?
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