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  • #61
    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    And despite its massive popularity in polls, including among Republicans, not a single Republican Senator voted for it! Not even those of them who pretend to be 'reasonable' like Mitt Romney.

    And many of the reasons those Republicans gave for not voting for it applied equally to the Covid stimulus bills they twice voted for under Trump. Sad!

    They would rather cry crocodile tears about Doctor Seuss books than help the American people. Every single Republican politician has become the enemy of the American people, and should be voted out of office.
    It seems to me that they were trying to pull a Pelosi. Avoid helping the American people, because doing so would give the president a win.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

      It seems to me that they were trying to pull a Pelosi. Avoid helping the American people, because doing so would give the president a win.
      FWIU, it has a lot to do with things that the Democrats tried to sneak into the last two stimuli packages and getting yanked out being in them yet again and this time staying in.

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        And despite its massive popularity in polls, including among Republicans, not a single Republican Senator voted for it! Not even those of them who pretend to be 'reasonable' like Mitt Romney.

        And many of the reasons those Republicans gave for not voting for it applied equally to the Covid stimulus bills they twice voted for under Trump. Sad!

        They would rather cry crocodile tears about Doctor Seuss books than help the American people. Every single Republican politician has become the enemy of the American people, and should be voted out of office.
        Democrats are out to destroy the middle class, and every single one of them should be voted out of office.

        Except for "FREE STUFF!"

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Ronson View Post

          Democrats are out to destroy the middle class, and every single one of them should be voted out of office.

          Except for "FREE STUFF!"
          EGGzackly --- more pork in that bill than in the entire series of Porky Pig.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #65
            KCCD, How many things listed in the Covid relief bill have nothing to do with Covid relief?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

              I used to post studies that show that the correlation to "more money" and "better education" is actually inverse.

              Haven't looked it up lately.
              The top five "states"[1] when it comes to total Elementary/Secondary Public School spending/student were from the top down New York, Alaska, Washington D.C., Connecticut and New Jersey but in 2017 they respectively placed 40th, 31st, 51st, 44th and 38th in SAT rankings. Yet the state with lowest total Elementary/Secondary Public School spending/student, Utah, which spent about a third or less for each student as those at the top was 10th in SAT scores. The one with the fifth lowest expenditure, Mississippi, ranked 9th.

              Overall, the trend for SAT scores reveals that most of the high spending states are doing bad in that measure whereas most of the lower spending states have higher scores. So if throwing money at the problem is the solution then why did many of the states with the lowest per student expenditures do better than many of those with the highest per student expenditures?

              This sorta blows a hole in the notion that spending more money means better results, doesn't it.

              Interestingly, in 2000 the state with the highest average SAT score was North Dakota, which ranked 41st in per student spending but has since began spending a lot more moving up to 15th in that category and yet has also dropped to 6th for SAT scores.

              Further (the last time I checked), Americans spend far more on schooling than the vast majority of countries that outscore us on the international tests.





              1. this includes Washington D.C. which is not a state.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #67
                Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
                Wasn't FDR pretty firmly opposed to public sector unions even existing at all?
                Another who strongly spoke out against public sector unions was the big time reforming mayor of NYC, Fiorello Henry La Guardia

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Esther View Post
                  KCCD, How many things listed in the Covid relief bill have nothing to do with Covid relief?
                  According to Republicans, it's around 91%.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                    Democrats are out to destroy the middle class, and every single one of them should be voted out of office.

                    Except for "FREE STUFF!"
                    The response to the China flu seems carefully calculated to entrap US citizens into accepting government dependence.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                      According to Republicans, it's around 91%.
                      It might be easier to list the things that ARE directly related to Covid, and even some of those 'reward' bad faith efforts by one side.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                        Democrats are out to destroy the middle class, and every single one of them should be voted out of office.
                        Clearly up is down and black is white in your worldview.

                        Democrats are trying to save and expand the middle class. Republicans are trying to destroy it.

                        The fact that you can't even understand that basic fact means you shouldn't be posting in this forum.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          Clearly up is down and black is white in your worldview.

                          Democrats are trying to save and expand the middle class. Republicans are trying to destroy it.

                          The fact that you can't even understand that basic fact means you shouldn't be posting in this forum.

                          You would be a good drinking partner
                          P1) If , then I win.

                          P2)

                          C) I win.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
                            Clearly up is down and black is white in your worldview.

                            Democrats are trying to save and expand the middle class. Republicans are trying to destroy it.

                            The fact that you can't even understand that basic fact means you shouldn't be posting in this forum.
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              Clearly up is down and black is white in your worldview.

                              Democrats are trying to save and expand the middle class. Republicans are trying to destroy it.

                              The fact that you can't even understand that basic fact means you shouldn't be posting in this forum.
                              Says the expert on the US - who has never been to the US.

                              Who shouldn't be posting to this forum?

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                                Says the expert on the US - who has never been to the US.

                                Who shouldn't be posting to this forum?
                                That 8.1 earth quake the other day. Starlight tripped and fell, that was the impact of his Ego on the ground.

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