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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Just how old are you? and does mossy know?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Putting in burglar alarms was one of my first jobs as a teenager. Good job too. Sure beat working at KFC.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Putting in burglar alarms was one of my first jobs as a teenager. Good job too. Sure beat working at KFC.
Made darn good money until insurance companies noted that companies could get in trouble for having fake cameras that people thought were real
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostOne of my first businesses was making fake surveillance cameras. Used a tin box, the plastic roll film used to be carried in, a piece of clear plastic, and a tiny red light hooked to a power supply which I "gussied up" with paint and fake wires leading from it.
Made darn good money until insurance companies noted that companies could get in trouble for having fake cameras that people thought were realThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
They still sell fake cameras! 9 volt battery makes a little red LED next to the "lens" blink, and there's a pigtail wire coming out the back that you can stuff up into a hole or under a shingle or whatever to make it look real.
Still, I guess you could put them in a home or something like that.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThat's exactly what I sold! But companies stopped buying them saying it was due to liability concerns. I guess if someone ran up to a camera screaming for help they could be liable to anything that happened or something like that.
Still, I guess you could put them in a home or something like that.
They've gotten rather sophisticated looking!!!
dummy camera.jpgAttached FilesThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThat's exactly what I sold! But companies stopped buying them saying it was due to liability concerns. I guess if someone ran up to a camera screaming for help they could be liable to anything that happened or something like that.
Still, I guess you could put them in a home or something like that.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
BNT Dummy Fake Security Camera, with One Red LED Light at Night, for Home and Businesses Security Indoor/Outdoor (2 Pack, White)
They've gotten rather sophisticated looking!!!
dummy camera.jpg
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYeah mine were a tin box painted black And I used a bracket from a hardware store to mount them.
But I guess, since the dummies don't need a DVR, somebody's willing to pay the cheap price to bluff....
Interesting point, though, about the false sense of security somebody might have in thinking they're being "protected" or that they could summon help.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Way back in my police days when camera systems were just becoming popular in your local Stop-n-Rob, there was a round of criminal defense that said "Well, that's video, but there's no sound - so you don't really know that my client was robbing the store, or just showing them the gun he bought".
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostEasily determined by how was the client "showing" the gun -- sideways as usual when showing it, or was the "business end" constantly pointed toward the other person.
Another, which you know has long since been debunked --- if it's not a REAL gun --- or if it doesn't have bullets in it....
I remember a scene in Happy Days where they managed to lock a burglar in a closet, and he called that he was going to shoot if they don't let him out.
Richy and Potsie were terrified, but Fonz just walked over and opened the door....
When they asked how Fonz knew the guy didn't have a gun, Fonz replied .... -- a thief who robs with a gun in his hand - does 10 to 20 in the can".
The burglar mumbled, "oh great, a hood who knows prison poetry".The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Way back in my police days when camera systems were just becoming popular in your local Stop-n-Rob, there was a round of criminal defense that said "Well, that's video, but there's no sound - so you don't really know that my client was robbing the store, or just showing them the gun he bought".
Why can't companies use HD cameras and standard video formats, like MP4? It's like the security systems are designed by the crooks so they won't get caught.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Back, then, there was all kinds of "prison wisdom" like --- if you just show them the gun, but don't actually point it at them, then that's not really robbery.
Another, which you know has long since been debunked --- if it's not a REAL gun --- or if it doesn't have bullets in it....
I remember a scene in Happy Days where they managed to lock a burglar in a closet, and he called that he was going to shoot if they don't let him out.
Richy and Potsie were terrified, but Fonz just walked over and opened the door....
When they asked how Fonz knew the guy didn't have a gun, Fonz replied .... -- a thief who robs with a gun in his hand - does 10 to 20 in the can".
The burglar mumbled, "oh great, a hood who knows prison poetry".
The_Flintstones_-_Once_Upon_a_Coward_-_Fred_and_a_Robber.jpg
Same with simply giving a cashier a note saying you've got a gun.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Gah. I hate security videos. I often have to deal with the video files at work for legal cases. Every system has it's own proprietary format requiring their own players, which look like they were designed on windows XP. And they usually use like 1 frame per second frame rate. Low res. For example, if there was a slip and fall, you see the person standing there, then lying on the ground. from about 100 feet away. in glorious 640 x 480 resolution (at best). And they all want me fix it. "Can you zoom in and clean that up?" - no, this isn't a fictional TV show.
Why can't companies use HD cameras and standard video formats, like MP4? It's like the security systems are designed by the crooks so they won't get caught.
500Gig DVR, records on motion, 4 camerasThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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