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  • Senate passes new covid relief bill

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-po...-covid-relief/

    The bill passed on a partisan 50-49 vote.
    All proposed Republican amendments were defeated, although some provisions were scaled back to appease conservative Dems.

    Biden will most definitely sign this. A big win for him.

    Average Americans can expect to get individual payments and expanded unemployment benefits.

    This bill has broad support among Americans and even among polled Republicans.

    I seem to recall that Trump (before he lost) advocated going big, with similar payments of $1400 to suffering Americans.

  • #2
    The Democrats have loaded this thing with TONS of pork, and it was NOT a bi-partisan bill at all.
    As a matter of fact, they had to suspend for 12 hours while trying to bribe Joe Mansion to go along with it.

    As for Biden - he only knows what his handlers tell him.
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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    • #3
      The $1.9 Trillion Biden Spending Plan Is Even Worse Than You Think

      The latest $1.9 trillion omnibus spending bill pending in Congress is in addition to last year’s $3.4 trillion COVID-related health and economic stimulus spending bills. Estimates of this new massive bailout put the actual appropriation of taxpayer funding related to health costs at a meaningless nine percent of the total new bloat.

      What will we get for the $1.9 trillion in new deficit spending? This is all nothing more than a crafty direct federal taxpayer subvention to blue states and large urban corridors that otherwise could never justify any other state’s taxpayer bailout for their years of irresponsible, profligate government waste.

      Take for example California, whose commanding government employee unions control every facet of that state’s budget allocations and whose public pension plans, the most generous in the nation, now demand extraordinary funding at all levels of government. This political turkey has now come home to roost.

      But California, like New York and Illinois, have another big problem. Their state’s productive classes — you know, the people who actually create the wealth and economic vitality that permit such largess — are now leaving those states in droves rendering enormous potential tax deficits in their wake. What to do?

      Call in the cavalry — or in this case, “F-Troop”. Dr. Fauci, the goofy corporal of functional health bureaucrats, has dutifully continued his Lockdown Fears Tour sufficient to permit his enablers in Washington D.C. to craft a wildly off-the-reservation so-called stimulus spending proposal designed to transfer the wealth of responsible working states to cover the big government malfeasance of the irresponsible ones.

      If you still wonder why states like California, New York, and Illinois continue on a path of lockdowns despite a year’s worth of health data verifying the converse, one need only look only at Biden’s $1.9 trillion stimulus proposal to understand the want of blue states to keep their citizens restricted, frustrated and on the dole.

      After a full year of governments at all levels first began shutting down our economies for “30 days to slow the virus spread”, only the bluest of states continue to restrict their population’s ability to earn a living. And despite sound research showing the counterproductive health consequences of lockdowns, those blue state’s motivations for continuing their restrictive edicts are becoming ever more evident.

      There is a growing, observable contrast developing in the country between the positive health outcomes in states which have been working and re-opening their economies and the coastal deep blue states who remain under strict lockdowns. Those who continue to remain closed for business are being exposed as having unnecessarily done more harm to their citizenry than the virus.

      In fact, once you understand the true nature of the $1.9 trillion proposal — to channel the nation’s tax dollars to Democrat-controlled blue states and left-wing institutions — you will begin to get a handle on the immoral overreach that defines this stimulus plan and the corrupt manner in which they continue to trade on public fear to maintain the health lie undergirding this preposterous debt-busting pork-barrel bill.

      The last time Democrats controlled both the White House and both houses of Congress, in 2009, there was a strong political current to overspend on bailouts to address the recession and credit crisis. Obama’s American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 — signed 12 years ago this month — was a $787 billion 2-year program to stimulate the economy, but did so in a mostly uniform manner across the states. Besides the huge Wall Street and banking liquidity portion, it was not a strictly partisan formulation.

      The same cannot be said of this Biden $1.9 trillion boondoggle. While it is couched in terms of health care prevention and jobless recovery, only a very tiny percentage of the spending is actually health-related. The overwhelming portion of the spending is for blue coastal urban states and left-wing welfare institutions and public-employee organized labor unions.
      "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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      • #4
        Money for inmates, money for illegal immigrants, no help for private schools, public schools not required to reopen in order to receive stimulus funds, no requirement for states to only use funds for China flu relief...

        Yeah, this thing is a mess.

        https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethba...-down-n2585815
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #5
          Two charts to keep an eye on and how quick they move upwards again. Latter is self-explanatory (this is basically inflation, whether it's currently affecting consumer prices or not is irrelevant). I expect the former to go vertical again, easily towards the 8-9 trillion range.

          Fed bond purchases:




          M1 money supply:

          "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            The Democrats have loaded this thing with TONS of pork, and it was NOT a bi-partisan bill at all.
            As a matter of fact, they had to suspend for 12 hours while trying to bribe Joe Mansion to go along with it.

            As for Biden - he only knows what his handlers tell him.
            Did you complain about lack of bipartisanship when the GOP passed their tax cut bill in 2017? The final version of that bill was loong and had handwritten sections written in over the long night before it came up for a vote the next morning. Next to no one had the chance to read it, and some of the marginal content was not legible.

            OK, by you?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              The $1.9 Trillion Biden Spending Plan Is Even Worse Than You Think

              The latest $1.9 trillion omnibus spending bill pending in Congress is in addition to last year’s $3.4 trillion COVID-related health and economic stimulus spending bills. Estimates of this new massive bailout put the actual appropriation of taxpayer funding related to health costs at a meaningless nine percent of the total new bloat.

              What will we get for the $1.9 trillion in new deficit spending? This is all nothing more than a crafty direct federal taxpayer subvention to blue states and large urban corridors that otherwise could never justify any other state’s taxpayer bailout for their years of irresponsible, profligate government waste.

              Take for example California, whose commanding government employee unions control every facet of that state’s budget allocations and whose public pension plans, the most generous in the nation, now demand extraordinary funding at all levels of government. This political turkey has now come home to roost.

              But California, like New York and Illinois, have another big problem. Their state’s productive classes — you know, the people who actually create the wealth and economic vitality that permit such largess — are now leaving those states in droves rendering enormous potential tax deficits in their wake. What to do?

              Call in the cavalry — or in this case, “F-Troop”. Dr. Fauci, the goofy corporal of functional health bureaucrats, has dutifully continued his Lockdown Fears Tour sufficient to permit his enablers in Washington D.C. to craft a wildly off-the-reservation so-called stimulus spending proposal designed to transfer the wealth of responsible working states to cover the big government malfeasance of the irresponsible ones.

              If you still wonder why states like California, New York, and Illinois continue on a path of lockdowns despite a year’s worth of health data verifying the converse, one need only look only at Biden’s $1.9 trillion stimulus proposal to understand the want of blue states to keep their citizens restricted, frustrated and on the dole.

              After a full year of governments at all levels first began shutting down our economies for “30 days to slow the virus spread”, only the bluest of states continue to restrict their population’s ability to earn a living. And despite sound research showing the counterproductive health consequences of lockdowns, those blue state’s motivations for continuing their restrictive edicts are becoming ever more evident.

              There is a growing, observable contrast developing in the country between the positive health outcomes in states which have been working and re-opening their economies and the coastal deep blue states who remain under strict lockdowns. Those who continue to remain closed for business are being exposed as having unnecessarily done more harm to their citizenry than the virus.

              In fact, once you understand the true nature of the $1.9 trillion proposal — to channel the nation’s tax dollars to Democrat-controlled blue states and left-wing institutions — you will begin to get a handle on the immoral overreach that defines this stimulus plan and the corrupt manner in which they continue to trade on public fear to maintain the health lie undergirding this preposterous debt-busting pork-barrel bill.

              The last time Democrats controlled both the White House and both houses of Congress, in 2009, there was a strong political current to overspend on bailouts to address the recession and credit crisis. Obama’s American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 — signed 12 years ago this month — was a $787 billion 2-year program to stimulate the economy, but did so in a mostly uniform manner across the states. Besides the huge Wall Street and banking liquidity portion, it was not a strictly partisan formulation.

              The same cannot be said of this Biden $1.9 trillion boondoggle. While it is couched in terms of health care prevention and jobless recovery, only a very tiny percentage of the spending is actually health-related. The overwhelming portion of the spending is for blue coastal urban states and left-wing welfare institutions and public-employee organized labor unions.
              What responsible working states are you referring to? Most Red States are in the red and rely on federal $$ that come from Blue State taxpayers. Our national GDP comes largely from Blue State economies.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                Money for inmates, money for illegal immigrants, no help for private schools, public schools not required to reopen in order to receive stimulus funds, no requirement for states to only use funds for China flu relief...

                Yeah, this thing is a mess.

                https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethba...-down-n2585815
                Why should private schools get taxpayer money?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kccd View Post

                  Why should private schools get taxpayer money?
                  In a voucher system, they would be one of the options that any student - regardless of race - could select.
                  This is something that minorities really really want.
                  "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kccd View Post

                    Why should private schools get taxpayer money?
                    You're right, it makes perfect sense to give free money to illegal immigrants and prison inmates but not private schools.

                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                      In a voucher system, they would be one of the options that any student - regardless of race - could select.
                      This is something that minorities really really want.
                      For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

                      Minorities don't know what they "really really want", only old white Democrats do.


                      “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

                      -Ghandi (Disputed)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

                        For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

                        Minorities don't know what they "really really want", only old white Democrats do.

                        Well, yeah, there's that.
                        "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                          You're right, it makes perfect sense to give free money to illegal immigrants and prison inmates but not private schools.

                          So....
                          Here is a public school that is failing miserably.
                          Here is a private school that is actually working.

                          Which one do I want to fund?
                          "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                            So....
                            Here is a public school that is failing miserably.
                            Here is a private school that is actually working.

                            Which one do I want to fund?
                            .... I don’t know the background here but shouldn’t you fund the one that’s failing and get it working too?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Watermelon View Post

                              .... I don’t know the background here but shouldn’t you fund the one that’s failing and get it working too?
                              Depends on why the school is failing. Is showing rap videos (NY Post) in a 12th grade economics course instead of, say a Crash Course Economics YT video like the 2017-2018 Buffalo, NY curriculum used , fixable by more funding?
                              “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

                              -Ghandi (Disputed)

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