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Originally posted by Diogenes View PostIn Jones' defence, his divorce lawyer called him a "performing artist", so InfoWars is fake news.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
So he was exercising artistic license! What a defense!Last edited by Diogenes; 03-04-2021, 11:00 AM.P1) If , then I win.
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C) I win.
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
Showing a decapitated head of the now former POTUS is defendable by "artistic license", so why not Jones' nuttery?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostI favor maximal civil liberties, so even evil speech should be protected.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
So he was exercising artistic license! What a defense!Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
I completely disagree. Nutjobs will take inspiration wherever they can excuse their actions. Manson claimed inspiration from the White Album. Are you suggesting that be banned just in case someone else takes similar inspiration?
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Originally posted by kccd View Post
What nonsense. Nutjobs will always find crazy ideas by playing music backwards or whatever. But when a broadcaster deliberately claims that Sandy Hook was a false flag operation, there are bound to be consequences, and there were. These things are not remotely equivalent.That's what
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
You forget about the conspiracy theories that were that the people were moved off of the aircraft. There were attacks.
However, even if you neglect that, it doesn't mean that they didn't cause harm to the victims families. After all, dragging out the tragedy through conspiracies is hateful.
But, lets go further, what about those who lied in ferguson and helped contribute to the vast amounts of harm done through the riots. Do we charge them?
Where do we draw the line?
What deliberate lies were told in Ferguson? If someone deliberately tells lies that are then directly responsible for injuries and/or property damage, they should be held responsible. Would you charge Trump for lying about the election results, a lie that lead to the Jan 6 riot?
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Again, we have laws against libel, slander and harassment. But to limit free speech because you don't like it or you think it is false leads to many problems. 1. Who becomes the arbiter of "Truth?" 2. What happens if those same people decide what YOU say should be restricted?
There will always be conspiracy theories, cults, and just outright liars out there. If you try to outlaw their speech, you just end up with them going underground. Much better to be out in the open where we can see what they are up to. And we can deal with their speech with counter speech, debate, and if they break the law, like inciting riots, or causing someone direct harm, we can deal with that with the laws he have for such things.
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Originally posted by seer View Post
So the left has been calling Trump supporters Nazis and White Supremacist - should that language be verboten?
White supremacist groups do not hide the fact that they are White Supremacists.
This is not to claim that ALL conservatives or Republicans should be lumped together with these people, but it would be helpful if the rest of the conservatives and Republicans were more forceful in their denunciation of those groups.
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
Showing (and reposting apparently) a decapitated head of Trump is defendable by "artistic license", so why not Jones' nuttery?
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
That's the same defense Rachael Maddow used when she was sued for something she said on her show. The argument her lawyers made was something along the lines of, "It's an entertainment program; therefore, nothing Maddow says should be mistaken for a statement of fact."
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