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The Murals of Belfast, Northern Ireland.
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Originally posted by seer View PostI spent a few days in Belfast before going down to Cork in 75. Belfast was like an armed camp, and the British soldiers did not mess around."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Yet ironically the British army was brought into Northern Ireland in 1969 to protect the Catholic communities from being attacked by violent Protestant gangs.
The Troubles, also called Northern Ireland conflict, violent sectarian conflict from about 1968 to 1998 in Northern Ireland between the overwhelmingly Protestant unionists (loyalists), who desired the province to remain part of the United Kingdom, and the overwhelmingly Roman Catholic nationalists (republicans), who wanted Northern Ireland to become part of the republic of Ireland.
But this is about the murals.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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I was on a tour that did 2 stops in NI a few years back. The 20 something guide said 2 things about the troubles: (1) it was about whether they were British or Irish, not religion and (2) her generation says they are neither British nor Irish - they are Northern Irish.
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
This one is reminiscent of the Berlin Wall.
There are many like that.
If only my first digital camera had been fitted with a memory stick! I think it held ten photos maximum!
The great walls and steel gates were dreadful things to see within communities.
They may have been taken down by now, but I don't know. A trip around the streets on 'google-maps' would soon tell me. I must get on to that....... :)
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Originally posted by Celebrian View PostI was on a tour that did 2 stops in NI a few years back. The 20 something guide said 2 things about the troubles: (1) it was about whether they were British or Irish, not religion and (2) her generation says they are neither British nor Irish - they are Northern Irish.
If you hear any calls for the 'English to get out of Ireland' you'll know that the caller is uninformed.
There are only Northern Irish in Northern Ireland, but that HAS to include Catholic communities that have lived there for hundreds of years.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
But this is about the murals.
As to Northern Irish politics, Iet us not forget the comment made in 2018 by the [then] British Secretary of State for Northern Ireland.
“I freely admit that when I started this job, I didn’t understand some of the deep-seated and deep-rooted issues that there are in Northern Ireland. I didn’t understand things like when elections are fought, for example, in Northern Ireland – people who are nationalists don’t vote for unionist parties and vice versa. So, the parties fight for election within their own community."
Politics and religion are still very much intertwined in that province.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post[SIZE=14px][FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Calibri]
Why do you imagine they exist?
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by eider View PostWhere Catholic and Protestant Districts join...........
The walls and steel gates are about ten feet high. Barbed wire all around.
In peaceful times folks can travel from one area to t'other, but if any troubles ignite those great steel doors shut.
new1 041.jpgThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Why don't you start a thread on that! You really don't need to derail every thread you enter."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
The fact remains that in Northern Ireland politics and religion are still very much interconnected - hence the murals in the different communities.
Why is that so hard for you?
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
That's twice now you've brought up a tangential topic. You've been asked to stay on topic.
Why is that so hard for you?
It's who she is!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
That's twice now you've brought up a tangential topic. You've been asked to stay on topic.
Why is that so hard for you?
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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