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Islamic Violence vs Right-Wing Extremism
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"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostJust going by 2020 I can tell that chart is completely wrong.
Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postmove goal posts much? September 11 was not domestic terrorism or "right wing" was it?
You've joined the Mountain Man club for people who shoot themselves in the foot and claim victory.
Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by seanD View PostTheir definition of terrorism: "the deliberate use—or threat—of violence by non-state actors in order to achieve political goals and create a broad psychological impact." The fact they don't view any of the violence in 2020 as leftwing terrorism is laughable and pretty much renders their analysis a joke (and obviously partisan driven).
Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostOne of the biggest problems with those statistics is that many terroristic actions by the left are often not treated as being acts of terrorism but rather dismissed as simple crimes.
When a supporter of BLM shot and killed five police officers (wounding seven more along with two civilians) during a BLM protest in Dallas[1], it was dismissed as a regular crime. When another one ambushes and kills two sitting in their car in New York[2], it was again regarded as a regular crime.
Likewise, when a shooter entered the Family Research Council's Washington D.C. headquarters in 2012 and opening fire (because the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) had put them on their list of anti-gay "hate groups"), wounding one before being tackled by a security guard, it was regarded as a regular crime but when another idiot entered Comet Ping Pong Pizzeria also in D.C. brandishing a rifle and shooting "through the lock of a closet, damaging a computer" and where nobody was injured (because of a false internet rumor they were part of a child sex trafficking ring) that was deemed to be part of a terrorist conspiracy.[3]
To better just how screwed up and out of touch with reality the data keeping really is, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), the source for many right-wing terrorist acts, list the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting by Omar Mateen the most deadly Islamic terror attack since 9/11, along with the shootings of police officers by black anti-white radicals as "right-wing" plots.
Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostOr is that more evidence of the Lügenpresse? I honestly don't know. However, scenes of burning buildings. looted shops, and people hitting one another makes for far more "exciting" television than images of peaceful protesters with placards shouting slogans.
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MSNBC's Ali Velshi standing in front of the first police department that rioters tried out what soon would be a favorite trick of theirs. First they try to barricade those inside so they can't get out and then they set the building on fire in hopes of burning all of those trapped inside alive. Great wholesome fun for the whole family. Those inside even get to call and text loved ones saying goodbye because they figure that they're going to die.
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IIRC, this was also the one where the reporter nonchalantly noted that he could see four more fires from where he's standing
We had cities where this took place night after night for several months straight while the MSM kept calling them protests rather than what they were. We had actual armed insurgents seize blocks and declaring them autonomous zones that were no longer under government authority (literal armed insurrections), which were patrolled by armed antifa/BLM thugs who had a nasty habit of opening fire on anyone who approached "their turf." Four were shot, with two killed in separate incidents in Seattle, and a little girl was shot and killed in Atlanta when her mother tried to turn her car around in a parking lot next to one of these "occupied" zones there.
But for some reason they'll be very unlikely included in statistics of leftwing violence.Last edited by rogue06; 03-03-2021, 06:26 AM.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Roy View PostDo those criticisms also apply to the report I cited, or are you simply tossing out random problems with the SPLC''s data in an attempt at guilt by association?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostHow "right-wing violence" as compared to "left-wing violence" gets defined is one of the biggest issues in trying to get accurate numbers.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou didn't have to worry about which one was taking place after the first week or so as the peaceful protests pretty much disappeared and what you had left was rioting. But the MSM remained dutifully true to the narrative, reporting on "mostly peaceful protests" while standing in front of buildings set ablaze.
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MSNBC's Ali Velshi standing in front of the first police department that rioters tried out what soon would be a favorite trick of theirs. First they try to barricade those inside so they can't get out and then they set the building on fire in hopes of burning all of those trapped inside alive. Great wholesome fun for the whole family. Those inside even get to call and text loved ones saying goodbye because they figure that they're going to die.
519627.jpg
IIRC, this was also the one where the reporter nonchalantly noted that he could see four more fires from where he's standing
We had cities where this took place night after night for several months straight while the MSM kept calling them protests rather than what they were. We had actual armed insurgents seize blocks and declaring them autonomous zones that were no longer under government authority (literal armed insurrections), which were patrolled by armed antifa/BLM thugs who had a nasty habit of opening fire on anyone who approached "their turf." Four were shot, with two killed in separate incidents in Seattle, and a little girl was shot and killed in Atlanta when her mother tried to turn her car around in a parking lot next to one of these "occupied" zones there.
But for some reason they'll be very unlikely included in statistics of leftwing violence.
."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostDo those criticisms also apply to the report I cited, or are you simply tossing out random problems with the SPLC''s data in an attempt at guilt by association?
Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Your fixation on certain events is noted.
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Roy View PostI'll note instead that you have not even attempted to see whether your criticisms apply to the statistics I cited, and are instead persisting with your "guilt by association" fallacy.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostThe Bible is a veritable cornucopia providing source material for so many varying and diverse viewpoints.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by kccd View Post
Actually the right has consistently tried to blame right wing violence on lefties. Republican Congressmen did it today when the FBI Director testified about Jan 6. Although he kept insisting there was no evidence of involvement by antifa or BLM or other left wing instigators, these Congressmen kept asking about left wing involvement.
Our intel agencies have tried to warn about right wing terrorism in the USA since before McVeigh, but Republicans will have none of it, even as example after example occurs and the body count goes up.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
What "lies" did "the left" make up about the events of 6 January?
https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...t-ashli-babbit
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