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  • #31
    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

    You do realise that some here will never concede that domestic US RW violence can ever be quite as heinous as domestic US LW violence.

    Excuses and defensive comments will continue to be made to contend that the Left is always far worse.
    But the left has taken "it's a mostly peaceful protest" to an artform!

    Once again - I'm consistent - you do the crime, you should do the time.
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

      You do realise that some here will never concede that domestic US RW violence can ever be quite as heinous as domestic US LW violence.

      Excuses and defensive comments will continue to be made to contend that the Left is always far worse.
      Only when it actually is worse. We have consistently condemned violence by anyone. It's the left that uses language like "mostly peaceful" to disguise and excuse their use of violence.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

        You do realise that some here will never concede that domestic US RW violence can ever be quite as heinous as domestic US LW violence.

        Excuses and defensive comments will continue to be made to contend that the Left is always far worse.
        it was Shuny who wanted to deflect from Islamic violence to right-wring violence. I never mentioned left-wing violence. 2020 showed violence is mainstream for the modern US left. I don't see Republicans setting up bail funds for the Capitol rioters or any other right wing extremist. If we're going to pile up the bodies in general throughout history, Stalin and Mao are a 1-2 punch for victory for the left of the ideological spectrum. If we're going to look at religion and death toll, Islam is the victory.

        The only constant is the human capacity for violence. No one here is defending right-wing violence or extremism.
        “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

        -Ghandi (Disputed)

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

          it was Shuny who wanted to deflect from Islamic violence to right-wring violence. I never mentioned left-wing violence. 2020 showed violence is mainstream for the modern US left. I don't see Republicans setting up bail funds for the Capitol rioters or any other right wing extremist. If we're going to pile up the bodies in general throughout history, Stalin and Mao are a 1-2 punch for victory for the left of the ideological spectrum. If we're going to look at religion and death toll, Islam is the victory.

          The only constant is the human capacity for violence. No one here is defending right-wing violence or extremism.
          In people like HA's mind, correcting the lies that the left made up about the Capitol riot, is "defending right-wing volence"

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post

            Only when it actually is worse. We have consistently condemned violence by anyone. It's the left that uses language like "mostly peaceful" to disguise and excuse their use of violence.
            Actually the right has consistently tried to blame right wing violence on lefties. Republican Congressmen did it today when the FBI Director testified about Jan 6. Although he kept insisting there was no evidence of involvement by antifa or BLM or other left wing instigators, these Congressmen kept asking about left wing involvement.

            Our intel agencies have tried to warn about right wing terrorism in the USA since before McVeigh, but Republicans will have none of it, even as example after example occurs and the body count goes up.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post

              In people like HA's mind, correcting the lies that the left made up about the Capitol riot, is "defending right-wing volence"
              What "lies" did "the left" make up about the events of 6 January?
              "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
                The only constant is the human capacity for violence. No one here is defending right-wing violence or extremism.
                Me too neither!

                "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                  What "lies" did "the left" make up about the events of 6 January?
                  One of the most egregious ones - that a Capitol Police Officer was bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher. Never happened.
                  "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                    One of the most egregious ones - that a Capitol Police Officer was bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher. Never happened.
                    He died from injuries he sustained. I have not read anywhere that he was "bludgeoned to death" with the fire extinguisher.

                    "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                      He died from injuries he sustained. I have not read anywhere that he was "bludgeoned to death" with the fire extinguisher.
                      Take this to Cow Poke's thread please.
                      “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

                      -Ghandi (Disputed)

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                        He died from injuries he sustained. I have not read anywhere that he was "bludgeoned to death" with the fire extinguisher.
                        I'm shocked! (not even in the least - but, yes - there's a whole thread on that)
                        "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by seanD View Post

                          Their definition of terrorism: "the deliberate use—or threat—of violence by non-state actors in order to achieve political goals and create a broad psychological impact." The fact they don't view any of the violence in 2020 as leftwing terrorism is laughable and pretty much renders their analysis a joke (and obviously partisan driven).
                          Right Wing terrorist are overwhelmingly Christian, and not atheists nor Muslims..
                          Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                          Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                          But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                          go with the flow the river knows . . .

                          Frank

                          I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            Shuny you still have not supported your claim that "Right Wing violence in the US exceeds all other causes of violence"

                            Your link says nothing of the sort. Not to mention it is 20 years old.
                            Your reference supported this.
                            Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                            Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                            But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                            go with the flow the river knows . . .

                            Frank

                            I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

                              Take this to Cow Poke's thread please.
                              I do hope you posted the same request to Cow Poke who introduced the topic [see post # 38]. I have no particular interest in discussing the man's death.
                              "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                                But the left has taken "it's a mostly peaceful protest" to an artform!
                                Or is that more evidence of the Lügenpresse? I honestly don't know. However, scenes of burning buildings. looted shops, and people hitting one another makes for far more "exciting" television than images of peaceful protesters with placards shouting slogans.


                                "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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