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Have any of you gotten a vaccine?
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
That is completely wrong. It shows you have absolutely no idea how any of this works. The vaccine causes your body to produce antibodies, which are what your body uses to fight off disease. Exactly like every other vaccine does. Your body's own immune system takes over from there. Vaccines are just a "kickstart" to teach your body how to fight off the disease. Which means, YES it does stop the spread of the virus because your body will fight the covid virus off. What they said is that in the small chance that you DO catch the virus (because your immune system is not up to snuff) the symptoms will most likely be much milder since your body will start to fight it off faster than if you were hit completely unprepared.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
That is completely wrong. It shows you have absolutely no idea how any of this works. The vaccine causes your body to produce antibodies, which are what your body uses to fight off disease. Exactly like every other vaccine does. Your body's own immune system takes over from there. Vaccines are just a "kickstart" to teach your body how to fight off the disease. Which means, YES it does stop the spread of the virus because your body will fight the covid virus off. What they said is that in the small chance that you DO catch the virus (because your immune system is not up to snuff) the symptoms will most likely be much milder since your body will start to fight it off faster than if you were hit completely unprepared.
I guess you are aware that the covid shots, being based on a new RNA technology, are not acting like technology used in older vaccines. In this experimental technology, the RNA is not the active virus nor an inactivated virus. The new technology is designed to inform the body how to build antibodies instead of triggering an immune response against something recognized as a foreign body. You are likely aware that the new technology may affect the Syncytin-1 in the placenta in pregnant women -- creating the concern that there would be miscarriages and infertility, the former which has been observed already.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
You are not offering anything to explain why the Pfizer and others say that this is not tested against the spread of the virus. Or are you just talking about the spread of the virus within a person's body?
I guess you are aware that the covid shots, being based on a new RNA technology, are not acting like technology used in older vaccines. In this experimental technology, the RNA is not the active virus nor an inactivated virus. The new technology is designed to inform the body how to build antibodies instead of triggering an immune response against something recognized as a foreign body. You are likely aware that the new technology may affect the Syncytin-1 in the placenta in pregnant women -- creating the concern that there would be miscarriages and infertility, the former which has been observed already.
Yes I know how it works. Your cells are tricked into making the spike protein, which then floats around and activates your white blood cells to make antibodies. Then the antibodies will attack any virus that enters your body. After a day or so, the RNA runs out and your cells stop making the protein. It doesn't change your DNA nor does it keep making the spike protein. Once an RNA strand is "read" it is destroyed.
Regular vaccines work in a similar way, except they use weakened or dead virus bits to trick your body into doing the same thing, make antibodies.
Once you have the antibodies, they are functionally the same thing as far as fighting disease goes. Just like the flu shot will mostly stop you from getting the flu but in some cases you can still catch a mild version of it, the same is true with the COVID Vaccine, except with the flu, there are so many variations and mutations floating around there is a good chance that the vaccine might not even work if you are exposed to a different strain. So far with the COVID vaccine they are expecting it to work on all of the various strains so far.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Yeah, I'm glad we already had Covid, sailed through it, and there's no rush to decide about the vaccine.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
My biggest concern is if the government gets it in its head create a "vaccine ID" of sorts indicating what vaccinations you've received, and if businesses and government buildings start requiring it for entry.
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Originally posted by EvoUK View Post
Good for them. Proof of vaccination or a negative Covid test (or something along those lines).Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
My biggest concern is if the government gets it in its head create a "vaccine ID" of sorts indicating what vaccinations you've received, and if businesses and government buildings start requiring it for entry.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
My biggest concern is if the government gets it in its head create a "vaccine ID" of sorts indicating what vaccinations you've received, and if businesses and government buildings start requiring it for entry.
Show me your papers!
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
Not all of us are comfortable with the idea of a totalitarian government that can compel you to receive injections.
There's no valid reason not to take the jab (aside from the usual valid medical ones for people who can't take jabs for X reason), so if you don't want to take the jab then fine, you just need a recent all clear test.
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Originally posted by EvoUK View Post
As I said: 'or a negative Covid test'
There's no valid reason not to take the jab (aside from the usual valid medical ones for people who can't take jabs for X reason), so if you don't want to take the jab then fine, you just need a recent all clear test.
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Originally posted by EvoUK View Post
As I said: 'or a negative Covid test'
There's no valid reason not to take the jab (aside from the usual valid medical ones for people who can't take jabs for X reason), so if you don't want to take the jab then fine, you just need a recent all clear test.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
That's where it would start, but that's not where it would end. Government programs always get bigger and more intrusive, never the opposite.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
In the near future we vaccinated humans will refer to those who refused the shot as "the old humans" Homo Unvaccinatus. Unevolved troglodytes who are lacking our genetic superiority and extra limbs. We will laugh at them groveling in the mud as we fly overhead in our sky cities built with our new superpowers.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Don't worry so much about having to have papers. They will just be able to read the microchip in the vaccine and know if you are allowed to buy or sell anything.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...en-vaccinated/Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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