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Originally posted by kccd View Post
Both of those stories describe bad behavior and dishonesty.
Have either of them offered a real apology?
The size of news stories is governed by what the public wants to hear. A few days ago it was Tiger Woods' accident, 24/7.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Which do you think is more important and why?
The Cuomo story is more important as it goes to the question of how this pandemic was mishandled in NY and whether what Cuomo did or allowed to happen resulted in deaths. I have to say, however, that this is a much broader issue that deals with how state and national leaders failed in multiple ways in this health catastrophe.
The Cruz story is not just a story of a man taking a vacation at the wrong time and then lying about his reasons. It connects to the general failure of Texas to protect its power infrastructure, and general unconcern about the consequences.
The Tiger Woods story is a sad sports story that deserves a few minutes at best, not hours and hours of coverage.
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Originally posted by kccd View Post
OK, but that was not the original question.
Originally posted by kccd View PostThe Cuomo story is more important as it goes to the question of how this pandemic was mishandled in NY and whether what Cuomo did or allowed to happen resulted in deaths. I have to say, however, that this is a much broader issue that deals with how state and national leaders failed in multiple ways in this health catastrophe.
The Cruz story is not just a story of a man taking a vacation at the wrong time and then lying about his reasons. It connects to the general failure of Texas to protect its power infrastructure, and general unconcern about the consequences.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View PostActually, it was. If you look in the OP I asked what was more important. Apparently you didn't actually read the OP before answering.
You forgot to add that Cuomo also had an accusation of sexual harassment/assault (now 2).
And yes the harassment issue is important, but so far unsubstantiated and the second accusation is quite mild (he allegedly asked her if she has been involved with older men). I will agree that society takes this issue seriously when the accusations against Trump are taken seriously. Not holding my breath on that one.
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Originally posted by kccd View Post
OK, but you subordinated the importance issue by using the word big in your thread title, so that is what I initially addressed.
And yes the harassment issue is important, but so far unsubstantiated and the second accusation is quite mild (he allegedly asked her if she has been involved with older men). I will agree that society takes this issue seriously when the accusations against Trump are taken seriously. Not holding my breath on that one.
Are you saying #metoo only matters when Trump is accused?
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View PostSo, what makes Cruz more important to liberals?
From an objective standpoint, do you think liberals have the importance right?
I suppose you can ask which story is important to more people, but we're pretty evenly divided right now.
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Originally posted by Stoic View PostIt's always fun to see a member of the other team take one on the chin.
I don't think importance is something that can be looked at from an objective standpoint. If something is important, it's important TO somebody. It's always subjective.
I suppose you can ask which story is important to more people, but we're pretty evenly divided right now.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
I think you pretty much answered the question though. After all, "fun" doesn't equate to importance, and that was all you were able to come up with when asked why liberals thought it was more important.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Right. And biased in a different direction than you are.
But that's me, apparently you feel that is just subjective.
And you never answered your own opinion either.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View PostWell, I would say that in a larger sense, a governor hiding numbers of deaths (caused by their own failed policies) because they feared a DOJ investigation would use it against them, and sexually harassing multiple aids, is objectively more important and impactful than a senator with no state-level power leaving a state in the middle of an emergency. I will agree that doing so was dumb, and very bad optics, but his leaving caused no actual harm.
Harassment is harmful, if it actually happened. But there are plenty of other stories about things that cause as much or more harm that don't get any air time.
But that's me, apparently you feel that is just subjective.
And you never answered your own opinion either.
So I'd probably come down slightly in favor of the Ted Cruz story being more important, though I'd again stress that I don't find either story particularly important.
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