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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Which is one of the main reasons we chose to adopt a 'rescue dog' who was in good health and no pedigree.
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Rescue dog? Like you ran in and save him from a burning building?
so, yeah, we rescued him from death.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Would I? Would I really? My wife is born to the Ute tribe, and quite regularly gets mistaken as 'Asian'
(of various types). I'm of Indian descent, and regularly get mistaken as 'african american/black'.
Race simply isn't a biologically valid concept.
It would be interesting to see which so-called race all of them, who are all regarded as a distinct ethnic group, would get shoe-horned into.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by seer View PostTo bad these days are gone!
https://thefederalist.com/2021/02/20...be-less-white/
Whistleblower: Coca-Cola Uses Antiracist Training That Tells Employees ‘Try To Be Less White’
Coca-Cola has used a training video by antiracist activist Robin DiAngelo that tells employees to “try to be less white,” according to “unwoke activist” Karlyn Borysenko based on information from what she says is a company whistleblower. Borysenko, who is also a psychologist, YouTuber, and creator of Zen Workplace, put a video of the training online. Borysenko often speaks out against critical race theory and corporate race training.
https://twitter.com/DrKarlynB/status...-less-white%2F
The 49-minute training video by DiAngelo, author of the book “White Fragility,” is titled “Confronting Racism.” Right away the course establishes that all white people are born racist. “Nothing exempts any white person from the forces of racism,” says DiAngelo. “When you accept the reality of your socialization, you can begin to examine how you’ve been shaped by it.”
“In the U.S. and other Western nations, white people are socialized to feel that they are inherently superior because they are white,” she continues. “Research shows that by age 3 to 4, children understand that it is better to be white.”
Employees are told in the “what you can do” section that to “be less white” one can:
Be less oppressive
Be less arrogant
Be less certain
Be less defensive
Be less arrogant
Be more humble
Listen
Believe
Break with apathy
Break with white solidarity
The training includes a “racial resentment” section. “Any moment of black advancement is met with a backlash of white rage and resentment,” DiAngelo claims. “I think we’re in a current moment of that after eight years of Obama.” DiAngelo goes on to say that white people resent affirmative action, which she describes as “a toothless program that we’ve practically dismantled.”
DiAngelo says when white people say they aren’t racist, she doesn’t buy it. When DiAngelo hears white people say, “I was taught to treat everyone the same,” she said she thinks to herself, “this person doesn’t understand basic socialization. This person doesn’t understand culture. This person is not self-aware.”
Being nice to black people is not enough, according to DiAngelo. “Niceness is not courageous. Niceness is not anti-racism.” She informs listeners that if they are merely nice, then they are advancing a racist system that increases “racial disparities.”
The course description for the training reads:
In this course, Robin DiAngelo, the best-selling author of White Fragility, gives you the vocabulary and practices you need to start confronting racism and unconscious bias at the individual level and throughout your organization. There’s no magic recipe for building an inclusive workplace. It’s a process that needs to involve people of color, and that needs to go on for as long as your company is in business. But with these tools at your disposal, you’ll be well on your way.
DiAngelo’s course could open Coca-Cola to a slew of lawsuits by employees who suspect they were denied promotions, bonuses, and other opportunities due to their skin color. They can use the training as direct evidence of racial discrimination, according to lawyers.
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
In other words - they hold overtly racist views, but only express them in private settings where they believe thay will not be held accountable for them.
This translates into lower pay, lost job opportunities or housing availability, indifference to needs or sometimes not so quiet hostility in public settings.Last edited by oxmixmudd; 02-20-2021, 05:32 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
Sorry - I thought the term's meaning would be obvious. By closeted overt racism i mean the (in my experience) not insignificant number of white people who keep their racism to themselves knowing it is frowned upon officially. But who when given a 'safe' opportunity to act on it do so. Those people that on believing you trustworthy will call you aside and tell you what they really think about a situation involving a black person in a crime, or a black family making an offer on a house down the street, or the black teenager tailgating them, etc etc. Thise people that faced with a resume from a black person of equal or slightly better qualifications will always choose the white person. Those that seeing a black person or family in need will continue on their way, but will stop and help if said person or family is white.
In other words - they hold overtly racist views, but only express them in private settings where they believe thay will not be held accountable for them.
This translates into lower pay, lost job opportunities or housing availability, indifference to needs or sometimes not so quiet hostility in public settings.
Not to nitpick, but I think "closeted racism" would suffice above, since "overt" means visible and unhidden. It doesn't go well with "closeted."
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
OK.
Not to nitpick, but I think "closeted racism" would suffice above, since "overt" means visible and unhidden. It doesn't go well with "closeted."
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
He's aiming for hidden, conscious racism, where the person knows they are racist, but hides it. This is in contrast to a person who thinks they aren't racist, while still doing racist stuff (like applying stereotypes, unequal enforcement of rules, etc.), or someone who has hidden bias.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
He's aiming for hidden, conscious racism, where the person knows they are racist, but hides it. This is in contrast to a person who thinks they aren't racist, while still doing racist stuff (like applying stereotypes, unequal enforcement of rules, etc.), or someone who has hidden bias.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
OK.
Not to nitpick, but I think "closeted racism" would suffice above, since "overt" means visible and unhidden. It doesn't go well with "closeted."
Live and learnMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
He's aiming for hidden, conscious racism, where the person knows they are racist, but hides it. This is in contrast to a person who thinks they aren't racist, while still doing racist stuff (like applying stereotypes, unequal enforcement of rules, etc.), or someone who has hidden bias.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou mean like declaring that blacks don't have any real diversity in their views -- that they all think alike? Or that a lot of them can't figure out how to go online or use a computer? Or maybe that a running across an "articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking" black person is so rare that it's "storybook, man"?
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
A couple of questions.
1) starting from a state where the consequences of overt racism are significant financial and educational differences, not just in the current population but in the facilities and institutions training the next, what mechanism do you propose to eliminate those disparities that does not involve some application of a temporary compensatory bias? ( keep in mind the asymptotic nature of incremental improvement )
2) given the entrenched nature of people still holding on to a closeted overt racism, what mechanism do you propose to prevent that ostensibly hidden bias from 'leaking out' and countermanding 1 above?
To rogue specifically, but nor exclusively:
Other than the confusion over the term closeted overt racism, which has been cleared i think, do you have any thoughts about what an answer might be to these two questions?My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostTo rogue specifically, but nor exclusively:
Other than the confusion over the term closeted overt racism, which has been cleared i think, do you have any thoughts about what an answer might be to these two questions?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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