Barack Hussein Obama foreign policy disaster megathread

[Cow Poke]

What do you think both parties can do to better represent their constituents?

Find the things they CAN agree on, and stop holding those things hostage as a condition to get something the other does NOT want to give up.

[Cow Poke]

Jimmy is a very confused individual. My family is pretty heavy on the democrat side and I've heard most of the democrat talking points time after time again. Sure, they do have some decent points (doesn't everybody), but both parties seem more interested in keeping themselves in power than they are in representing those they claimed to represent.

Yeah!

[Psychic Missile]

Jimmy is a very confused individual. My family is pretty heavy on the democrat side and I've heard most of the democrat talking points time after time again. Sure, they do have some decent points (doesn't everybody), but both parties seem more interested in keeping themselves in power than they are in representing those they claimed to represent.

What do you think both parties can do to better represent their constituents?

[lilpixieofterror]

Yup, I sat down and gathered the names of all my representatives, both State and National, and wrote them letters telling them I was tired of their crap, and after 40 years of voting pretty much straight-line republican, I'm leaving the GOP and registering as an Independent.

If Jimmy doesn't believe me, it's perfectly fine, cause, after all, he believes Obama! PERIOD!

Jimmy is a very confused individual. My family is pretty heavy on the democrat side and I've heard most of the democrat talking points time after time again. Sure, they do have some decent points (doesn't everybody), but both parties seem more interested in keeping themselves in power than they are in representing those they claimed to represent.

[Cow Poke]

CP claims to be an independent and just because he agrees with republicans on some issues doesn't make him a republican.

Yup, I sat down and gathered the names of all my representatives, both State and National, and wrote them letters telling them I was tired of their crap, and after 40 years of voting pretty much straight-line republican, I'm leaving the GOP and registering as an Independent.

If Jimmy doesn't believe me, it's perfectly fine, cause, after all, he believes Obama! PERIOD!

[Cow Poke]

Hey Jimmy ---

That thing were Obama did the RS - P E C T .... I thought he handled that really well, and you could tell by his laughing that he knew he blew it, but he played to the crowd. He was actually warm and humorous and charming!

[lilpixieofterror]

There is a difference between "some" and "everything" Lilpix. This Congress is the most do nothing Congress in the history of Congress, and the reason for that is not even in question, it is, and has been, the Republicans strategy since Obama was elected. They,ve said it themselves and thats exactly what they have done, so take your head out of the sand and open your eyes.

Yep Jimmy, in the history of Congress, they have done 'nothing', but pass thousands upon thousands of laws. I guess you haven't noticed how the two houses tend to fight with one another lately, have you Jimmy? When one tries to do something, the other blocks up. Of course, you ignore when the democrats do it because you don't care what they do; you're only interested in blaming republicans for everything. Sorry Jimmy, but democrats and republicans share the blame on the current disasters going on here (although some are more the fault of one over the other). Want some democrat examples? Obamacare seems to be turning into a real disaster. Remember the, "If you like your plan, you can keep it" lie? Well, how well has that worked out for them so far? Also, during the government shutdown, can you please explain why they needed to close off memorials and spend money to do this? Can you please explain why they tried to shut down private business that were working on government property? Oh, that's right, you'll ignore those issues because democrats did it and they are the best thing since sliced bread, eh?

Misrepresent much. When did I say anything about "everybody"? All I said is that I have seen CP's politics and they show him to be a Republican whether he wants to call himself an Independant or not.

Sorry Jimmy, but there is no misrepresenting going on, at all. CP claims to be an independent and just because he agrees with republicans on some issues doesn't make him a republican. Again, are you incapable of seeing shades that exist between republican and democrats? Trust me, both parties are playing games with us and messing things up. Democrats share as much of the blame for things how they are as the republicans do. The difference is that I get this and it seems you don't.

[Cow Poke]

How ironic, you have it bass ackwards as usual CP.

Bite a hole in my shorts, Jimmy.

[JimL]

You really are living in a fantasy world, are you? Sorry Jimmy, but democrats have refused to compromise on many issues themselves, but you don't care about that because you agree with everything they say, so they can never be wrong.

There is a difference between "some" and "everything" Lilpix. This Congress is the most do nothing Congress in the history of Congress, and the reason for that is not even in question, it is, and has been, the Republicans strategy since Obama was elected. They,ve said it themselves and thats exactly what they have done, so take your head out of the sand and open your eyes.

So you're a black/white fundy, who sees everybody as 'us vs them'. No wonder you can't argue any issues here Jimmy, you're incapable of seeing shades of gray that exist between the two points.

Misrepresent much. When did I say anything about "everybody"? All I said is that I have seen CP's politics and they show him to be a Republican whether he wants to call himself an Independant or not.

[JimL]

Liberal definition of compromise --- "agree with us on everything or else".

How ironic, you have it bass ackwards as usual CP.

It's OK, Jimmy, my taxes pay for you to live in your mommys' basement. I'm a giver, you're a taker.

I pay my taxes CP. The difference between us is that I am happy to do so. You're not a giver, you're a whiner.

[lilpixieofterror]

BbbbbB.b.b.b.BenGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!

Don't want to answer the reality, I understand it can be embarrassing to back up somebody who is making the very same mistakes you are criticizing from others. Obama raised the debt higher in his first four years, then Bush did in 8 years. You can always go to the US Treasury web site and confirm the numbers, if you really don't believe me. They are there, in black and white, for anybody capable of doing some basic math.

Examples available upon request.

They produce them here and now.

Since I neither said nor implied that ones' citizenship, US or otherwise, invalidated everything one said, I'm not sure how it would "work out." Perhaps you were exaggerating; otherwise you're "misinterpreting" my words.

So you did not try to make it sound as though DE's words and arguments don't count because he isn't a US citizen?

So you agree with me then.

Everybody is right, once in a while.

It means that I wish Republicans would put out some real ideals and learn how to compromise.

I wish Democrats would do the same, but they are too busy playing to the media about how the other side 'refuses to compromise' while they refuse to do it themselves. How funny, how everybody else, but those whom you agree with, have to 'compromise', isn't it?

[lilpixieofterror]

Yeah, but everybody knows that it is the Republicans in Congress who refuse to compromise on anything, you know, because they are so principled.

You really are living in a fantasy world, are you? Sorry Jimmy, but democrats have refused to compromise on many issues themselves, but you don't care about that because you agree with everything they say, so they can never be wrong.

As for CP's politics, i don't care what he says he is, his stance on the issues is what defines him politically as far as i'm concerned.

So you're a black/white fundy, who sees everybody as 'us vs them'. No wonder you can't argue any issues here Jimmy, you're incapable of seeing shades of gray that exist between the two points.

[Zymologist]

It means that I wish Republicans would put out some real ideals and learn how to compromise.

Ah yes, because Obama has shown himself so willing to compromise.

[Cow Poke]

Yeah, but everybody knows that it is the Republicans in Congress who refuse to compromise on anything,

Liberal definition of compromise --- "agree with us on everything or else".

you know, because they are so principled. As for CP's politics, i don't care what he says he is, his stance on the issues is what defines him politically as far as i'm concerned.

It's OK, Jimmy, my taxes pay for you to live in your mommys' basement. I'm a giver, you're a taker.

[nickcopernicus]

Go right ahead, show something that was 'made up' here and it is rather ironic that you bring up the things you do when well... Obama has brought the US debt to higher and higher levels, has raised taxes, and is attempting to pass immigration amnesty. I would also think the fact that Obama approval ratings would show what many people think of him.

Nick:
BbbbbB.b.b.b.BenGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!

LPOT:
Yet another unbacked assertion.

Nick:
Examples available upon request.

LPOT:
I wasn't aware not being a US citizen therefore means everything they say is invalid. How does that work out?

Nick:
Since I neither said nor implied that ones' citizenship, US or otherwise, invalidated everything one said, I'm not sure how it would "work out." Perhaps you were exaggerating; otherwise you're "misinterpreting" my words.

LPOT:
Or it reveals their mentality that they don't view their former block countries as 'foreign' to begin with. Either answer, of course, doesn't reflect too well upon them.

Nick:
So you agree with me then.

LPOT:
Whatever in the world that is suppose to mean.

Nick:
It means that I wish Republicans would put out some real ideals and learn how to compromise.