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    Andy Ngo Unmasks Antifa

    New book fights popular narrative on radical leftists

    Andy Ngo fell to the concrete, bleeding from his ear. Vessels in his brain had burst, doctors later told him, and blood pooled on his brain. Ngo, a journalist, had been attacked by members of Antifa while covering one of the "antifascist" group’s demonstrations in Portland in 2019.

    "No hate, no fear," Ngo recalled the group shouting around him.

    The Portland native learned early on, however, that hate and fear are bedrocks of this radical movement. Ngo began covering Antifa for the Portland State Vanguard, where he went to graduate school, taking on what he called the "dissident beat."

    "Colleagues were never fond of the stories I was interested in telling," Ngo told the Washington Free Beacon. "[But] I continued on that path of always being on the dissident beat, covering Antifa, and stuck with it. The gap between local and national press on reporting was so wide, that I had to step in and do it."

    In his new book, Unmasked: Inside Antifa’s Radical Plan to Destroy Democracy, Ngo details the violent rise of this organized but "amorphous" group in the United States.

    "Antifa is an ideology. It’s amorphous—that is difficult for the average person to understand," Ngo told the Free Beacon. "There’s another whole structure to Antifa that includes working in the legal, democratic system by systematically mainstreaming tenets of the ideology. The fact that they are decentralized and anonymously organized gives them deniability."

    That deniability goes "all the way up" to Democratic politicians who "don’t believe there is really any true organizational element" to the group. To take one example, Rep. Jerry Nadler, a Democrat from New York, called Antifa a "myth" when he was asked about the group's contribution to months of violent riots in Portland last summer.

    Likewise, the media over the last four years have offered little in the way of opposition, as detractors were smeared as pro-fascist or labeled racist or bigoted.

    "Nobody wants to be vocally [critical] of a movement claiming to be antifascist," said Ngo. "Those who do, myself and other journalists included, get smeared—in my case nearly killed—so they can have control over the narrative."

    The Associated Press, New York Times, and other outlets not only denied that members of Antifa committed violence last summer, but also molded the narrative into one of positivity and peace. In his book, Ngo points to an example from the Daily Beast, which published a story last summer that claimed businesses in Seattle "loved" the "CHAZ/CHOP" autonomous zone—a six-block stretch of the downtown area that rioters occupied for weeks. But in the zone, six people were shot—two fatally—and others reported being assaulted and raped.

    How did it come to this? Antifascist movements began under the Weimar Republic as an offshoot of the German Communist Party called Antifascist Action. It spread across Europe—notably, to the United Kingdom. There, it blended with British "punk subculture" and developed an anarchist flavor distinct from its pro-communist German counterparts. This newer strain of antifascism was then exported to the United States.

    By the end of 2016, following the election of Donald Trump, local, centralized chapters of Antifa were proliferating. In addition to educating members in critical race and gender theory, firearms usage, and creating anonymous online personas, these hubs act in unison with unaffiliated bands of "black-bloc" misfits during their planned protests and violent attacks.

    Antifa intimidates opponents with threats of violence and harassment, ranging from doxxing to death threats to actual physical violence, as in Ngo's case. The group is responsible for attacks on police officers and the deaths of fellow protesters and civilians—including several during last summer’s wave of riots and protests.

    Antifa justifies the violence as "self-defense."

    "The word ‘violence’ is being systematically remade to conform to their worldview," Ngo writes in Unmasked. "Looting and arson aren’t violence, they argue. And yet physical violence directed at their opponents is also not violence but rather ‘self-defense.’"

    Ngo began writing the book (which comes out Feb. 2) in 2019 with plans to publish in 2020. He pushed back the deadline, however, after Antifa and Black Lives Matter protests ignited in May, following the death of George Floyd. Ngo said he witnessed the two organizations—bound by Marxism and a disdain for the American criminal justice system—blend into one entity.

    "There are different agendas, but enough overlap that they have really merged into the same entity," Ngo told the Free Beacon. "There’s cooperation, from what I can see, and an ideological cross-pollination from both sides."

    As it evolves, Ngo will continue tracking Antifa and its mission to upend America and its institutions. For him, it’s personal: His parents came to the United States in 1979 after fleeing from communist prison camps in Vietnam.

    "As much as this book is about antifa," Ngo's final lines in Unmasked read, "it’s also a letter of gratitude to the nation that welcomed my parents, penniless refugees from the socialist republic of Vietnam, to become equal citizens."
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    Nah. I am used to reading this sort of garbage from Mountain Man but not so much from you. Here is another way of looking at Mr Ngo.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...antifa-877914/


    There’s a folksy saying that grandparents of all stripes like to dispense: If it looks like a duck and acts like a duck, then you shouldn’t be surprised when it starts quacking. Another, perhaps less folksy version of this idiom is Occam’s Razor, the theory that the simplest explanation for an event or phenomenon is usually the most likely.

    Nowhere was this demonstrated more quickly than in the case of the meteoric rise and equally rapid fall of Andy Ngo, the provocateur and social media personality who garnered nationwide sympathy last June, when he tweeted that he was attacked by antifascist protesters at a Proud Boys rally. Last week, the local newspaper the Portland Mercury reported that a left-wing activist going undercover as a member of Patriot Prayer, a far-right group known for promoting and engaging in violent clashes with leftist activists, had given the publication an 18-minute video that included footage of Ngo with a group of Patriot Prayer members as the members discuss an upcoming brawl, including weaponry to be used in altercations with antifa. Ngo, who describes himself as a journalist, did not record the conversation, and does not appear to have his camera or notebook out. For part of the footage, he is seen on his phone.

    The source told the Mercury that Ngo and Patriot Prayer have an “understanding” that the group offers him protection when he covers rallies in exchange for favorable coverage. While this has not been confirmed, and Ngo strongly denies these allegations, an audio conversation between members of the Proud Boys, released by Willamette Week seemed to confirm that such discussions between Ngo and the Proud Boys had occurred, as one man is recorded saying that Ngo was attacked on June 29th because he refused an offer of protection. “Andy Ngo was .... told that if he wanted protection from the PBs [Proud Boys], he went in with us and he went out with us,” the man says.

    When reached for comment, Ngo directed Rolling Stone to his attorney Harmeet Dhillon, who refuted the allegations made by the Portland Mercury.There have been suggestions made by that story and others that he is part of that group or embedded in that group or took protection from that group, which is absolutely false,” she tells Rolling Stone.

    Nonetheless, the footage was highly embarrassing for Ngo, who has long claimed to be an independent and objective journalist, despite many left-wing activists in Portland accusing him of antagonizing them at rallies and selectively editing his footage to malign the left. Shortly after the footage was released, Quillette, a “free thought” publication with a libertarian bent, deleted Ngo’s byline from its masthead, though founder Claire Lehmann denied to the Daily Beast that it had anything to do with the recently surfaced Patriot Prayer footage, as did Ngo in an op-ed published by the Spectator. (When asked about this, Dhillon says, “the suggestion that the video coming out is tied with [Ngo cutting ties with Quillette] is false and defamatory.”)

    But the issue wasn’t so much that Ngo had finally been “exposed” as a right-wing provocateur as opposed to a journalist. It was that he’d managed to successfully convince so many ostensibly reasonable people otherwise, despite significant evidence to the contrary — and, in so doing, did some serious damage in the process.

    Ngo has a long and rich history of trolling those on the left. While getting his master’s degree in political science at Portland State, he became convinced that a “social justice frenzy” was rapidly sweeping the nation, as he told a reporter who profiled him for BuzzFeed, becoming particularly focused on what he viewed as the increasingly urgent threat of Islam. In 2017, Ngo attended an interfaith student panel and tweeted a paraphrase of a Muslim student’s comments about how non-Muslims would be treated in an Islamic state. After he posted the tweet, which used inflammatory language out of context, Ngo was fired from the campus newspaper, the Portland State Vanguard. At the time, the editor-in-chief of the Vanguard said the firing was not motivated by partisanship, and that Ngo was removed from his post because the tweet was a “half-truth” that “incited a reaction and implicated the student panelist,” thus putting them in imminent jeopardy. But Breitbart and other national right-wing news outlets salivated over the story, painting Ngo as an innocent victim on the pyre of political correctness and liberal media bias.

    It was the experience of getting fired that apparently gave Ngo his first taste of martyrdom. He started fashioning himself as a gonzo independent journalist of sorts, showing up at various far-right rallies in Portland, a city that has increasingly become a battleground of the culture wars. He developed a knack for obtaining footage of anti-fascist protesters that leaned into preconceived notions of radical leftists, making them look violent, red-faced, angry, or even just irrational, a gimmick that landed him a handful of spots as a commentator on Fox News. He also found the time to rack up a few bylines, penning an investigation into “the suspicious rise” of gay hate crimes in Portland for the New York Post, which notably quoted a gay Proud Boys member as saying it was “the most welcoming organization that I have ever been a part of.”

    But it wasn’t until Ngo was attacked at the June rally that he truly ascended to the ranks of right-wing media shit-stirrer. “Attacked by antifa. Bleeding. They stole my camera equipment. No police until after. waiting for ambulance . If you have evidence Of attack please help,” he tweeted, later adding that he had been diagnosed at the ER with a brain hemorrhage and that antifa had thrown quick-dry cement milkshakes at him. (This claim was later debunked.) Footage also surfaced on Twitter of Ngo at the rally, being doused with a milkshake and silly string, and getting punched by an antifascist protester.

    Almost immediately, Ngo garnered tremendous sympathy from both sides of the political aisle, even raising $195,000 from a GoFundMe set up following the altercation. GOP leader Kevin McCarthy swiftly condemned the anti-fascist protesters, saying, “The hate and violence perpetrated by Antifa must be condemned in the strongest possible way by all Americans. I pray for full and speedy recovery for journalist Andy Ngo,” while Sen. Ted Cruz rallied for antifa to be labeled a domestic terrorist threat. CNN anchor Jake Tapper retweeted an interview with Ngo condemning antifa, and Democratic candidates Andrew Yang, Rep. Eric Swalwell, and Sen. Joe Biden also weighed in to defend Ngo, with a campaign spokesperson for the former vice president telling the New York Post, “violence directed at anyone because of their political opinions is never acceptable, regardless of what those beliefs might be,” and that “Andy Ngo’s attackers should be identified and investigated.”

    Immediately, he metamorphosed from being just another right-wing troll scrambling for attention to a blank slate, a canvas onto which political figures and journalists of all stripes could project their goals and desires. For those on the right, condemning the boogeyman of antifa was a no-brainer, an easy and convenient way to score points with the base; for those on the left, it was an opportunity to telegraph being fair, rational, and level-headed, while simultaneously taking a few steps away from their black-clad brethren further left. And for members of the media, the industry to which Ngo ostensibly belonged, it was an opportunity to demonstrate, in the face of constant and unrelenting allegations of liberal bias, just how unbiased they could be.

    What the buttoned-up campaign spokespeople and hair-shellacked CNN anchors could not have predicted, however, was that the legitimizing of Ngo would come at a cost. Not only did Ngo become a far more prominent media presence, warranting an expansive (if critical) profile in Buzzfeed and a byline in The Spectator, the world’s oldest English-language publication, he would also become the driving force behind — as Tess Owen of Vice put it — the increasingly hostile “national attitudes toward the decentralized [antifa] activist movement.” The coverage of the Portland attack helped to spur Sen. Ted Cruz’s bill to designate antifa as a terrorist organization, which was introduced in Congress in July. In the hours following the mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, which took more than 20 people’s lives, Ngo was instrumental in promoting the conspiracy theory that antifa had played a role; when that was thoroughly debunked, he helped perpetuate the theory that the man behind the Dayton, Ohio shooting was a member of antifa, despite the fact that there is no evidence he was involved in local activism or organizing.

    Even if Ngo himself were a fraudulent journalist, and the victim narrative he promoted was also under fraudulent pretenses, his ability to get bad ideas in front of a mainstream audience was all too real. Because above all else, the attack on Ngo — and his ability to successfully spin it into a lucrative and semi-legitimate media career — appeared to shift the narrative regarding extremist violence more toward the far right’s favor. For groups like Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys, “what allegedly happened to Andy Ngo was galvanizing for them in a lot of ways,” Keegan Hankes, a researcher and analyst at the Southern Poverty Law Center, previously told Rolling Stone. “It got a lot of media attention and it reinforced something the Proud Boys have pushed for years, which is the real threat is the violent left.”

    The issue with this narrative is that this is verifiably not the case; though members of antifa have committed violent acts, that number is dwarfed by those committed by far-right extremists, says Hankes. That’s also the truth according to FBI director Christopher Wray, who has said that white supremacists constitute “the vast majority” of domestic terrorism threats. And when considering the very real, very immediate threat of far-right radicalization, promoting the conspiracy theories of a huckster like Ngo serves as little more than a distraction.

    While the Portland Mercury story could cost him whatever was left of his mainstream reputation, it certainly won’t cost him his career. In the ever-expanding right-wing media ecosystem, there is plenty of room for trolls with a knack for video-editing software and gaming Twitter to find an audience, particularly if they are telling that audience what they know they want to hear. It should, however, serve as a chastening teachable moment to those who took him seriously, if only for a short time. That way, when some other ambitious young man with slick and dangerous ideas starts quacking, we’ll all know exactly what to call him.
    Last edited by firstfloor; 02-01-2021, 02:09 PM.
    “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
    “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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    • #3
      Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
      Nah. I am used to reading this sort of garbage...
      You're hardly one to talk about garbage - all you do is spew forth extreme nutter leftist crap with an occasional call for violence. I'm really tired of your ing.

      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

        You're hardly one to talk about garbage - all you do is spew forth extreme nutter leftist crap with an occasional call for violence. I'm really tired of your ing.
        It’s not me that’s changed. You are already half way down the slippery slope and off to join Ngo and his pals.
        “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
        “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
        “not all there” - you know who you are

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        • #5
          Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

          It’s not me that’s changed. You are already half way down the slippery slope and off to join Ngo and his pals.
          I posted an article for discussion - I expressed NO opinion on it whatsoever. Go away.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

            I posted an article for discussion - I expressed NO opinion on it whatsoever. Go away.
            Then do us all a favour and do not post stuff like that again. It is very inflammatory.
            “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
            “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
            “not all there” - you know who you are

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            • #7
              Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

              Then do us all a favour and do not post stuff like that again. It is very inflammatory.
              Do me a favor, and comply with my request that you go away --- let me be more clear -- do not post in this thread anyore.

              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                You don't need to be afraid of antifa CP. It's a vague ideology. It's got barely any members and they don't do anything. The far-right keeps trying to inflate it and pretend it's a huge boogeyman out to get you all, and the FBI keeps having to issue statements in response that there was no antifa presence at any riots and that antifa wasn't doing anything. Antifa barely exists and it's not going to do anything to you.

                As FF has aptly demonstrated, your OP guy is a far-right crazy extremist troll who has fomented violence.
                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  You don't need to be afraid of antifa CP.
                  I'm not afraid of antifa.

                  It's a vague ideology. It's got barely any members and they don't do anything. The far-right keeps trying to inflate it and pretend it's a huge boogeyman out to get you all, and the FBI keeps having to issue statements in response that there was no antifa presence at any riots and that antifa wasn't doing anything. Antifa barely exists and it's not going to do anything to you.

                  As FF has aptly demonstrated, your OP guy is a far-right crazy extremist troll who has fomented violence.
                  And you guys are far leftist nutter loonies, one of whom has actually done the very thing you're now whining about.

                  You leftist nutters should have a voice and somebody else shouldn't?
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    And you guys are far leftist nutter loonies, one of whom has actually done the very thing you're now whining about.

                    You leftist nutters should have a voice and somebody else shouldn't?
                    You've lost it.
                    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      You've lost it.
                      You never had it.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        You don't need to be afraid of antifa CP. It's a vague ideology. It's got barely any members and they don't do anything. The far-right keeps trying to inflate it and pretend it's a huge boogeyman out to get you all, and the FBI keeps having to issue statements in response that there was no antifa presence at any riots and that antifa wasn't doing anything. Antifa barely exists and it's not going to do anything to you.

                        As FF has aptly demonstrated, your OP guy is a far-right crazy extremist troll who has fomented violence.
                        Yes, Cowpoke, you don't need to be afraid of antifa. It's not like they beat the crap out of even leftists if they hold American flags (oh, wait), or stalk trump supporters and murder them (oh, wait), or go around to rallies and attack people with bike locks (oh, wait), or burn down buildings with people inside, killing them (oh, wait). Nope, nosiree, nothing to be afraid of there. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                          Yes, Cowpoke, you don't need to be afraid of antifa. It's not like they beat the crap out of even leftists if they hold American flags (oh, wait), or stalk trump supporters and murder them (oh, wait), or go around to rallies and attack people with bike locks (oh, wait), or burn down buildings with people inside, killing them (oh, wait). Nope, nosiree, nothing to be afraid of there. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
                          Starlight live on the extreme leftist nutter propaganda, then tries to tell us how our country runs.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            You don't need to be afraid of antifa CP. It's a vague ideology. It's got barely any members and they don't do anything. The far-right keeps trying to inflate it and pretend it's a huge boogeyman out to get you all, and the FBI keeps having to issue statements in response that there was no antifa presence at any riots and that antifa wasn't doing anything. Antifa barely exists and it's not going to do anything to you.

                            As FF has aptly demonstrated, your OP guy is a far-right crazy extremist troll who has fomented violence.
                            Ah, the old it's nothing but a myth codswallop. Perhaps you should tell that to former Minnesota Congressman (who served as the Deputy Chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Chief Deputy Whip in the House) and is the state's current Attorney General, Keith Ellison, who is a supporter of the group


                            Or Willem van Spronsen, who was caught in the act of firebombing an ICE facility in Tacoma Washington with Molotov cocktails and trying to ignite a propane tank connected to the building. He was also carrying a rifle when confronted by police which he tried to shoot them with but it jammed or otherwise malfunctioned, and he himself was shot and killed.

                            Before his attack he had written a "manifesto where he declared "I am Antifa," and after his death he was lionized by the group. A Facebook post by Seattle Antifascist Action called him "a martyr" (as did prominent BLM activist and Daily Kos and The Young Turks contributor, Shaun King). Likewise, the Puget Sound Anarchists (both them and the SAA have been associated with antifa) declared that he was a "long-time anarchist, anti-fascist and a kind, loving person"

                            I should also note that Sporonsen's rhetoric was very similar to that of AOC's, who utterly refused to denounce his violent attack.



                            What the MSM reports is that in the charges of those arrested rarely is their mention of their being members of antifa. For instance, NPR said that of those arrested by federal officers "None of the court documents from federal cases in Portland reference antifa or any sort of broader anti-fascist movement or conspiracy." That's hardly a surprise considering that unless they tell the police they are antifa it will rarely come up not to mention it isn't a crime to belong to the group. They aren't being charge with belonging to antifa because that isn't a crime which is why headlines like this from Reuters, "U.S. prosecutors do not charge Portland protesters with antifa ties" appear designed to create a false impression.

                            Still, if it is known for a fact that they belong to the group because they boasted of it on social media and the like, it some times get mentioned. For instance, 3 members of anti-government group ANTIFA arrested after looting a Target in Austin, FBI says. Please note that the three were all from Austin which is important because the MSM loves to mention how most of those who got arrested were local folks and not out-of-town troublemakers using that to imply this automatically means they aren't antifa.

                            This is what the AP did when they ran a story about how many of those arrested "are young suburban adults from the very neighborhoods Trump vows to protect from the violence." Likewise the WaPo declaring that the overwhelming majority of those arrested in 49 cities nationwide were locals. But as the instance in Austin clearly demonstrates you don't have to come from out of town to belong to antifa.

                            The same with the guy arrested in Green Bay Wisconsin carrying a flamethrower. He was stopped after being spotted with, according to the police report "a whole bunch of white people with sticks, baseball bats and helmets" heading toward a BLM protest in that city. Obviously the police focused on the idiot with the flamethrower while the others scattered. Police described the guy, Matthew Banta, as "known to be a violent Antifa member who incites violence in otherwise relatively peaceful protests." He's one of those "young suburban adults" coming from a town less than an hour away from Green Bay.






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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                              Yes, Cowpoke, you don't need to be afraid of antifa. It's not like they beat the crap out of even leftists if they hold American flags (oh, wait), or stalk trump supporters and murder them (oh, wait), or go around to rallies and attack people with bike locks (oh, wait), or burn down buildings with people inside, killing them (oh, wait). Nope, nosiree, nothing to be afraid of there. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
                              Like many violent terrorist groups they work in independent groups or "cells" with very little central oversight or control so it makes it very hard to making sweeping arrests. The left then uses this structure to pretend that they don't really exist and allows folks like Jerry I-pooped-in-my-pants-in-public Nadler (D-NY) to claim that the months long rioting by antifa and similar groups was nothing but a myth

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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