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  • 9 Year Old Pepper Spray Incident

    If no one has heard, apparently there was an incident in Rochester, NY where a a 9 year old was pepper-sprayed during a domestic disturbance. Here's a link to the local paper which has both segments of the police body cam. It seems that the reason for the use of pepper spray was that the girl was seated in the police car but refused to get in the car fully by keeping her feet outside the police car.

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    Last edited by Cow Poke; 02-01-2021, 09:12 AM.
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    I cannot think of very many circumstances that would ever warrant pepper spraying a 9 year old, and if that's the full story this doesn't even come anywhere close to any of them

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
      I cannot think of very many circumstances that would ever warrant pepper spraying a 9 year old, and if that's the full story this doesn't even come anywhere close to any of them
      Per the link and the videos, there was a struggle before she was in the car, but she wasn't resisting in a struggle when she was actually sitting in the vehicle. One of the officers, as per the second video, did say she was loosing her patience, so the usage of pepper spray was likely as a means to get compliance and not due to any sort of attempt to subdue the girl.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        I cannot think of very many circumstances that would ever warrant pepper spraying a 9 year old, and if that's the full story this doesn't even come anywhere close to any of them
        I agree. I can't think of a situation where a child should be pepper sprayed.

        I saw an edited version of the body cameras and extensive coverage on the local news this morning. The coverage actually seemed pretty balanced between victim point of view and police point of view. It looks to me like the police were called into a no win situation. If I heard correctly, the girl involved is troubled and there have been previous incidents with her but to be clear, not a justification to pepper spray her.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
          I agree. I can't think of a situation where a child should be pepper sprayed.
          The only exception I can think of is if she had some sort of weapon

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          • #6
            I never carried pepper spray
            A) when you spray a drunk, he just gets meaner and more agitated
            2) you have to be conscious of wind direction or you'll spray yourself, too
            C) you may end up putting the subject in your car with you and cry all the way back to the station
            D) it's not as "directional" as people think, and it's easy to unintentionally spray others

            But, yeah, this looks more like "getting even" or "I'll show her who's boss" or something dumb.

            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              To be honest, at first I thought the thread was about something that happened 9 years ago, and was now just coming to light.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                To be honest, at first I thought the thread was about something that happened 9 years ago, and was now just coming to light.
                Apologies, in the future, if I post news topics, I'll try to be more precise.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

                  Apologies, in the future, if I post news topics, I'll try to be more precise.
                  No, no, no --- you did fine! It's one of those things that can be taken.... English is such a fun language!
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    There should be a WARNING on the videos that there's a lot of F-Bomb and other profanity.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      There should be a WARNING on the videos that there's a lot of F-Bomb and other profanity.
                      From my end, the video doesn't auto play and there's a "This video may contain graphic content" disclaimer.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

                        From my end, the video doesn't auto play and there's a "This video may contain graphic content" disclaimer.
                        "Graphic content" could simply mean violence or something --- if it's OK with you, I'll add a notice to the OP warning of the language -- the F bomb is a biggie on Tweb.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                          "Graphic content" could simply mean violence or something --- if it's OK with you, I'll add a notice to the OP warning of the language -- the F bomb is a biggie on Tweb.
                          No problem, edit as you see fit, if you want to make the title "Pepper Spray Incident Involving 9 Year Old", that would be fine as well.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

                            No problem, edit as you see fit, if you want to make the title "Pepper Spray Incident Involving 9 Year Old", that would be fine as well.
                            No, you're good - I hadn't had my first cup of coffee (Monday is my day off and I like to sleep late on Monday morning )
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                            • #15
                              Horrifying. As a father of a nine-year old, that was really scary. I was struck that - at least in what I saw - nobody really made an attempt to calm her down, to find out why she so desperately wanted her dad, to find out why she was so upset. It didn't seem that there was any attempt at de-escalation.
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