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  • #61
    Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
    The problem is, the setup of the United States government makes it so difficult to pass laws (it has to get a majority of the House and 60% of the Senate and the president's signature) that to actually get stuff done in a timely fashion, or to get stuff done at all, you end up having to go the Executive Orders route.
    No, you just have to start crafting actual give-and-take, compromise legislation, instead of the take-take-take my way or the highway legislation that seems common today. Or, you know, just stop bloody well passing so many useless laws.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
      The problem is, the setup of the United States government makes it so difficult to pass laws (it has to get a majority of the House and 60% of the Senate and the president's signature) that to actually get stuff done in a timely fashion, or to get stuff done at all, you end up having to go the Executive Orders route.
      60% in the Senate is only needed for controversial legislation and only a small percentage requires it. The process is purposefully designed to allow some time to think about what you're doing so legislation doesn't get rammed through in a heated frenzy. This crap of you must pass the legislation in order to find out what's in it ought to be repugnant to everyone. And we don't need presidents from either party "ruling" through fiat. We elected a president not a king.

      I'm always still in trouble again

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
        The problem is, the setup of the United States government makes it so difficult to pass laws (it has to get a majority of the House and 60% of the Senate and the president's signature) that to actually get stuff done in a timely fashion, or to get stuff done at all, you end up having to go the Executive Orders route.
        Our system of government was intentionally designed to be a slow and deliberative process where laws can not be easily and hastily passed. It's not a bug, it's a feature, and trying to use presidential executive orders to bypass Congress is not only a bad idea but is unconstitutional. There is, in fact, a legal theory that says that executive orders only apply to members of the executive branch and can and should be ignored by citizens.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #64
          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post






          One of the first things I thought of when I saw the video of Biden admitting that "I don't know what I'm signing" was those episodes of M*A*S*H where a distracted Colonel Blake would sign a bunch of documents that Radar handed him and then would ask him "What was all that I just signed?"
          sign here.jpg




          As Cow Poke noted in another thread, old Joe's keepers now have him holding up the Executive Orders and explaining what it is he is signing in an attempt at damage control. Apparently, in spite of the MSM ignoring the fact he was caught on a hot mic confusedly wondering what it was he was even signing as he still signed "his" E.O.s, more and more people have been made aware of this frightening loss of cognitive abilities.


          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #65
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            As Cow Poke noted in another thread, old Joe's keepers now have him holding up the Executive Orders and explaining what it is he is signing in an attempt at damage control. Apparently, in spite of the MSM ignoring the fact he was caught on a hot mic confusedly wondering what it was he was even signing as he still signed "his" E.O.s, more and more people have been made aware of this frightening loss of cognitive abilities.
            It's even worse than I thought - I hadn't seen the lead-up to the signing -- he's literally reading from a stack of note cards on his desk - he kinda fumbles with them - and doesn't even try to hide it.

            https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...C84D&FORM=VIRE,



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            • #66
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

              It's even worse than I thought - I hadn't seen the lead-up to the signing -- he's literally reading from a stack of note cards on his desk - he kinda fumbles with them - and doesn't even try to hide it.

              https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...C84D&FORM=VIRE,


              Yeah it is clear he didn't write the EO's or even know what they were, just before he signed it, he seemed to read a summary on the page and then sign it. Who knows what was in them? He sure didn't.

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