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  • #31
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

    Would anybody believe that poll? Perhaps somebody should poll that.
    Polls remind me of that game show Family Feud, where they "polled a previous studio audience" to get their results. That one select group of people, who had the personalities to want to go to a game show, gave their answers. Does that represent the general population? I don't think so.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Ronson View Post

      Polls remind me of that game show Family Feud, where they "polled a previous studio audience" to get their results. That one select group of people, who had the personalities to want to go to a game show, gave their answers. Does that represent the general population? I don't think so.
      Pretty much, yes... and my daughter was taking a course in PoliSci, and they had a whole unit on polling, and how to get the results you want.
      "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        We've seen this with the QAnon phenomena. A significant proportion of the Republican base chose to believe every conspiracy theory that existed combined, and reject all rationality, facts, media etc.
        WHAT??? Are you seriously suggesting the international cabal of bloodsucking pedophile Satan worshiping vampire swamp elites who are using tunnels under Washington pizza shops to rape, torture, murder, and eat newborn infants is fake??? Come on, do you think I'm an idiot???
        "The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." - P. J. O'Rourke

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        • #34
          If they just feed the audience what it wants, dog food in this case, it’s no longer news, it’s propaganda.

          Stop eating dog food.
          “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
          “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
          “not all there” - you know who you are

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          • #35
            Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
            If they just feed the audience what it wants, dog food in this case, it’s no longer news, it’s propaganda.

            Stop eating dog food.
            Stop pooping in my thread --- you have nothing of value to contribute here, so run along.
            "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

              Would anybody believe that poll? Perhaps somebody should poll that.
              The only poll that matters is the poll taken on election day. In this last Presidential election, that vote was decisive.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by kccd View Post

                The only poll that matters is the poll taken on election day. In this last Presidential election, that vote was decisive.
                The polls taken from suitcases beneath tables behind floor-length tablecloths where no irregularities took place? Yeah, "decisive."

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                  Pretty much, yes... and my daughter was taking a course in PoliSci, and they had a whole unit on polling, and how to get the results you want.
                  My personal example is a phone poll I participated in some years ago which consisted of three questions:

                  1) Are you in favor of raising taxes on personal income?
                  2) Are you in favor of raising taxes on business income?
                  3) Are you more in favor of raising taxes on personal income, or business income?

                  As you can see, no matter how one answers the poll, it can be construed that the majority of respondents are in favor of some sort of tax increase.

                  I answered no, no, and neither but was told that "neither" was not an acceptable answer to the third question. When I insisted that my answer be recorded as given, I was informed that none of my answers would be recorded if I didn't answer with one of the two options, and that was pretty much the end of the call.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by kccd View Post

                    The only poll that matters is the poll taken on election day. In this last Presidential election, that vote was decisive.
                    That's ridiculous - if it was the ONLY poll that matters, we wouldn't be having constant polling, would we?
                    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                      The polls taken from suitcases beneath tables behind floor-length tablecloths where no irregularities took place? Yeah, "decisive."
                      Or a sudden dump of tens of thousands of Biden votes (and only Biden votes) in the dead of night that flipped solid Trump leads to a slim Biden leads (we saw this happen in real time on CNN when a number of counties suddenly flipped from red to blue leaving the analysts staring in stunned silence as they tried to figure out what had just happened).
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                        Or a sudden dump of tens of thousands of Biden votes (and only Biden votes) in the dead of night that flipped solid Trump leads to a slim Biden leads (we saw this happen in real time on CNN when a number of counties suddenly flipped from red to blue leaving the analysts staring in stunned silence as they tried to figure out what had just happened).
                        Is this The Kraken or was Dominion The Kraken?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                          The polls taken from suitcases beneath tables behind floor-length tablecloths where no irregularities took place? Yeah, "decisive."
                          Conspiracy theories do not count.
                          The Trump administration failed in its claims of massive irregularities and outright fraud in 60+ court cases before 90 judges.

                          Seems pretty decisive to me, and to the rest of the world.
                          Last edited by kccd; 01-23-2021, 09:53 AM.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                            That's ridiculous - if it was the ONLY poll that matters, we wouldn't be having constant polling, would we?
                            You think that polls should outweigh election results?
                            Yes, voting is the ONLY poll that matters.

                            Other polls are done to inform campaigns of the strengths and weakness, to let the public know how the different candidates are doing, to help donors decide how to spend their money and to give news organizations something to report.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by kccd View Post

                              Conspiracy theories do not count.
                              The Trump administration failed in its claims of massive irregularities and outright fraud in 60+ court cases before 90 judges.

                              Seems pretty decisive to me, and to the rest of the world.
                              I know an "irregularity" when I see it. I don't need a court to validate it for me, they have different criteria to measure by.

                              And I know statistical improbabilities when I see them.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                                I know an "irregularity" when I see it. I don't need a court to validate it for me, they have different criteria to measure by.

                                And I know statistical improbabilities when I see them.
                                Not to mention the fact that every case was hastily run out of court without any of the evidence ever being given a full and fair hearing.
                                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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