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  • #16
    Chris Wallace said he's been watching inauguration speeches since JFK, and that Biden's speech was the best one he's ever seen. Wonder how long till Fox fires him for not sufficiently cheerleading for Republicans?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Fox News Purge Begins

      As ratings tank amid hostile coverage of former President Donald Trump, Fox News is purging its newsroom in an attempt to salvage the network’s fading brand. Political editor Chris Stirewalt, a NeverTrumper, and several digital editors were fired Tuesday; on Election Night, Stirewalt defended the network’s decision to call Arizona for Joe Biden, a move that infuriated the president and Fox News viewers. (The outcome of Arizona’s election wasn’t finalized until late November.)

      “Though the network never backed off its Arizona call, and followed other major news outlets in calling the entire election for Biden days later, Stirewalt soon apparently found himself on the outs at Fox News,” the Daily Beast reported Tuesday. Fired staffers attempted to spin the purge as higher-ups ridding the network’s digital arm of “real journalists” who don’t hold a political agenda. Anonymous ex-employees told the Beast it “was part of the network’s larger effort to pivot its website from straight-news reporting to right-wing opinion content in the mold of Fox’s primetime programming.”

      Fox News has been bleeding viewers since November, quickly losing its perch in the cable news rankings. Conservatives have long viewed Fox News as the only channel to offer a counterbalance to the biased cable and network news channels that overwhelmingly mimic the Democratic Party’s company line while vilifying conservatives and Republicans. But its tone and coverage dramatically shifted during Trump’s presidency making it almost indistinguishable from left-leaning competitors such as CNN and MSNBC.

      Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace is widely disliked; Martha MacCallum just lost her 7 p.m. show to a rotating cast of hosts. A few days after Election Day, Bret Baier deleted an innocuous tweet promoting his 6PM p.m. show after more than 22,000 people responded to the tweet with harsh criticism of Fox News’ election coverage. Anchor Sandra Smith was forced to clarify an off-mic moment whenafter she mocked one of Trump’s lawyers who correctly pointed out that networks don’t decide presidential elections.

      Even the network’s marquee names such as Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity now trail the evening lineups at CNN and MSNBC for the first time in years. Conservative competitors One America News and Newsmax are vying for Fox’s disgruntled viewers.

      Bill Sammon, Fox News’ senior vice president and managing editor, announced his retirement Monday. The Washington Post reported that Rupert Murdoch, Fox News’ co-founder and owner of Fox News’ parent company, “has been taking a more active interest in its programming in the wake of the election.” The early call for Arizona, Murdoch told colleagues according to the Post, “caused reputational damage and cemented the view among some Trump supporters that the network is aligned against him.”

      But the network needs a major overhaul to win back lost viewers. Fox still retains a stable of neoconservative NeverTrumpers including Jonah Goldberg and Stephen Hayes who are massively out of touch with the Republican Party’s base of support; news programs and opinion shows are desperately in need of fresh faces and voices to communicate the “America First” legacy of Trump’s presidency. Firing Stirewalt is a start to restoring the network’s conservative cred, but Murdoch has his work cut out for him.
      That was a very slanted presentation in that quoted article.

      For example, the first paragraph rightly points out that Stirewalt was fired because he called Arizona for Trump, but the fact is he was right! And that paragraph does not point that out. Nor does it point out that almost everyone quickly agreed with that assessment. Furthermore, I can find no quote from him identifying himself as a NeverTrumper, which is often a slur used by the right wing.

      Another example - stating that Chris Wallace is widely disliked without stating who exactly dislikes him. The truth is that he is highly respected as a right-leaning but solid journalist, so much so that he was selected as one of the moderators for the recent Presidential debates because he was acceptable to both sides.

      It looks like Fox is moving to increase its popularity among right wing viewers by replacing their newscasters with "personalities" whose opinions are disconnected from reality.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
        Fox News has shown open bias for years now. The idea that people are abandoning them because they're becoming biased rings hollow.

        From what I can tell, people aren't abandoning Fox News because it's too biased; people are abandoning Fox News because they want news that's even more biased than Fox News is.
        Their opinion shows have always been biased. Their news reporting used not to be. Unfortunately, they have been mixing news and opinion for several years now, and viewers are fed up with it.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
          Chris Wallace said he's been watching inauguration speeches since JFK, and that Biden's speech was the best one he's ever seen.
          Chris Wallace has been saying a lot of really stupid stuff lately.
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

            Chris Wallace has been saying a lot of really stupid stuff lately.
            I think he kinda started going downhill pretty quickly after botching the debate.
            "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

              Their opinion shows have always been biased. Their news reporting used not to be. Unfortunately, they have been mixing news and opinion for several years now, and viewers are fed up with it.
              It started shifting early on during the Obama Administration. Prior to that there were several studies showing that their news was very unbiased.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                Chris Wallace said he's been watching inauguration speeches since JFK, and that Biden's speech was the best one he's ever seen. Wonder how long till Fox fires him for not sufficiently cheerleading for Republicans?
                He just needs to bake another "beautiful cake" - that no one will step in this time. The guy's pomposity knows no bounds.

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                • #23
                  Probably related:

                  For the first time ever, fewer than half of all Americans have trust in traditional media, according to data from Edelman's annual trust barometer shared exclusively with Axios. Trust in social media has hit an all-time low of 27%.
                  • 56% of Americans agree with the statement that "Journalists and reporters are purposely trying to mislead people by saying things they know are false or gross exaggerations."
                  • 58% think that "most news organizations are more concerned with supporting an ideology or political position than with informing the public."
                  • When Edelman re-polled Americans after the election, the figures had deteriorated even further, with 57% of Democrats trusting the media and only 18% of Republicans.
                  https://www.axios.com/media-trust-cr...m_content=1100
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    Probably related:

                    For the first time ever, fewer than half of all Americans have trust in traditional media, according to data from Edelman's annual trust barometer shared exclusively with Axios. Trust in social media has hit an all-time low of 27%.
                    • 56% of Americans agree with the statement that "Journalists and reporters are purposely trying to mislead people by saying things they know are false or gross exaggerations."
                    • 58% think that "most news organizations are more concerned with supporting an ideology or political position than with informing the public."
                    • When Edelman re-polled Americans after the election, the figures had deteriorated even further, with 57% of Democrats trusting the media and only 18% of Republicans.
                    https://www.axios.com/media-trust-cr...m_content=1100
                    Probably should start a new thread on it, but "wrong direction" polling is also up. More Americans think the Country is headed in the wrong direction.
                    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      For the first time ever, fewer than half of all Americans have trust in traditional media
                      We've seen this with the QAnon phenomena. A significant proportion of the Republican base chose to believe every conspiracy theory that existed combined, and reject all rationality, facts, media etc.
                      Last edited by Starlight; 01-21-2021, 08:20 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
                        Fox News has shown open bias for years now. The idea that people are abandoning them because they're becoming biased rings hollow.

                        From what I can tell, people aren't abandoning Fox News because it's too biased; people are abandoning Fox News because they want news that's even more biased than Fox News is.
                        This is more or less what customers have told me.
                        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          More Americans think the Country is headed in the wrong direction.
                          Has any outgoing president ever departed office with such high unemployment numbers, such a high number of Americans dying per day, and such a high number of troops needed to defend the capital against his followers? The country certainly doesn't look on the right track at the moment, and seems like a handbrake u-turn is needed.

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                          • #28
                            Has there been a poll showing most Americans don't believe in polls?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              We've seen this with the QAnon phenomena. A significant proportion of the Republican base chose to believe every conspiracy theory that existed combined, and reject all rationality, facts, media etc.
                              To reach those sort of numbers means that there are a great many more people than just those on either fringe who have lost trust in the MSM. The MSM did this to themselves

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                                Has there been a poll showing most Americans don't believe in polls?
                                Would anybody believe that poll? Perhaps somebody should poll that.
                                "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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