Patriot Party

[whag]

The question is, will everybody who voted for President Trump in November follow him into a new party? Because that's a significant number of people, and I know a lot of conservatives have been very disenchanted with the Republican party.

Um, after Trump just easily cost himself a second term? No. Many of his more mild supporters are annoyed by Trump's self-sabotage and won't follow him again.

[Ronson]

I still think we basically vote to keep "the other guy" out of office, not necessarily to put our own in - so even if there were multiple parties, it may end up being the typical "my enemy's enemy is my friend".

It's because our favorite candidates don't usually rise to the top. I didn't want to see Trump or Hillary in 2016 so I voted for Rand Paul (primaries) and Gary Johnson in the general election. But in 2020, I did vote for Trump, not against Biden.

I'd still like to see Paul, Josh Hawley or Tulsi Gabbard rise up in 2024. I could vote for any of them without holding my nose.

[Ronson]

Um, after Trump just easily cost himself a second term? No. Many of his more mild supporters are annoyed by Trump's self-sabotage and won't follow him again.

He'd be too old anyway. These ancient candidates that keep cropping up are reason for concern.

[whag]

It's because our favorite candidates don't usually rise to the top. I didn't want to see Trump or Hillary in 2016 so I voted for Rand Paul (primaries) and Gary Johnson in the general election. But in 2020, I did vote for Trump, not against Biden.

I'd still like to see Paul, Josh Hawley or Tulsi Gabbard rise up in 2024. I could vote for any of them without holding my nose.

Did Trump's continual self-hobbling bug you?

[Cow Poke]

Did Trump's continual self-hobbling bug you?

"self-hobbling"?

[Ronson]

Did Trump's continual self-hobbling bug you?

I accepted the fact he is a dysfunctional person. Anyone born with a silver spoon isn't going to operate like most people, and Trump lived life getting his way all the time. He "hobbled" himself because his personality got in the way.

I still think his policies (more libertarian than republican) are exactly what this country needs.

[firstfloor]

If Republicans thought a new party would split their vote, they might vote in Congress to convict Trump at his impeachment trial and follow that with a permanet ban on holding a public office.

[CivilDiscourse]

If Republicans thought a new party would split their vote, they might vote in Congress to convict Trump at his impeachment trial and follow that with a permanet ban on holding a public office.

Vote to convict and bar a person from office for purely political motives...I can see how you would suggest that.

[Cow Poke]

If Republicans thought a new party would split their vote, they might vote in Congress to convict Trump at his impeachment trial and follow that with a permanet ban on holding a public office.

Just out of curiosity, are there any other foreign nations in whose politics you like to dabble?

[whag]

Did Trump's continual self-hobbling bug you?

Yes, I mean Trump taking a ball peen hammer to his knees on a daily basis.

[whag]

I accepted the fact he is a dysfunctional person. Anyone born with a silver spoon isn't going to operate like most people, and Trump lived life getting his way all the time. He "hobbled" himself because his personality got in the way.

I still think his policies (more libertarian than republican) are exactly what this country needs.

All he had to do was pass policies like a normal president. If I was a supporter, I'd be livid at him for committing the biggest bungle in political history and justifying his worst critics.

[Cow Poke]

Yes, I mean Trump taking a ball peen hammer to his knees on a daily basis.

Come on, man, go big --- chain saw!!!

[Mountain Man]

It's because our favorite candidates don't usually rise to the top. I didn't want to see Trump or Hillary in 2016 so I voted for Rand Paul (primaries) and Gary Johnson in the general election. But in 2020, I did vote for Trump, not against Biden.

I'd still like to see Paul, Josh Hawley or Tulsi Gabbard rise up in 2024. I could vote for any of them without holding my nose.

Rand Paul was my pick early on, but he seemed to disappear before his campaign could even get started. Besides, I think Hillary would have destroyed him during the general. Actually, I'm not sure any of the 2016 candidates besides Trump could have beat Hillary, and the only reason Trump lost to China Joe is because of the significant "irregularities" that happened during the vote counting process.

[Ronson]

Rand Paul was my pick early on, but he seemed to disappear before his campaign could even get started. Besides, I think Hillary would have destroyed him during the general.

Unfortunately for Paul he doesn't have the stature. He's short, doesn't speak very loudly, and isn't aggressive enough in a debate. And although optics shouldn't play much of a part in this, it does. Hillary is loud and dominating, so yeah, Paul likely would have been crushed.

Actually, I'm not sure any of the 2016 candidates besides Trump could have beat Hillary, and the only reason Trump lost to China Joe is because of the significant "irregularities" that happened during the vote counting process.

Probably. Those irregularities defy both logic and statistical feasibility.

[Sparko]

Rand Paul was my pick early on, but he seemed to disappear before his campaign could even get started. Besides, I think Hillary would have destroyed him during the general. Actually, I'm not sure any of the 2016 candidates besides Trump could have beat Hillary, and the only reason Trump lost to China Joe is because of the significant "irregularities" that happened during the vote counting process.

I would vote for Dan Chrenshaw if he ran. We need a pirate potus