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  • #16
    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    The question is, will everybody who voted for President Trump in November follow him into a new party? Because that's a significant number of people, and I know a lot of conservatives have been very disenchanted with the Republican party.
    Um, after Trump just easily cost himself a second term? No. Many of his more mild supporters are annoyed by Trump's self-sabotage and won't follow him again.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

      I still think we basically vote to keep "the other guy" out of office, not necessarily to put our own in - so even if there were multiple parties, it may end up being the typical "my enemy's enemy is my friend".
      It's because our favorite candidates don't usually rise to the top. I didn't want to see Trump or Hillary in 2016 so I voted for Rand Paul (primaries) and Gary Johnson in the general election. But in 2020, I did vote for Trump, not against Biden.

      I'd still like to see Paul, Josh Hawley or Tulsi Gabbard rise up in 2024. I could vote for any of them without holding my nose.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by whag View Post

        Um, after Trump just easily cost himself a second term? No. Many of his more mild supporters are annoyed by Trump's self-sabotage and won't follow him again.
        He'd be too old anyway. These ancient candidates that keep cropping up are reason for concern.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Ronson View Post

          It's because our favorite candidates don't usually rise to the top. I didn't want to see Trump or Hillary in 2016 so I voted for Rand Paul (primaries) and Gary Johnson in the general election. But in 2020, I did vote for Trump, not against Biden.

          I'd still like to see Paul, Josh Hawley or Tulsi Gabbard rise up in 2024. I could vote for any of them without holding my nose.
          Did Trump's continual self-hobbling bug you?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by whag View Post

            Did Trump's continual self-hobbling bug you?
            "self-hobbling"?
            "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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            • #21
              Originally posted by whag View Post

              Did Trump's continual self-hobbling bug you?
              I accepted the fact he is a dysfunctional person. Anyone born with a silver spoon isn't going to operate like most people, and Trump lived life getting his way all the time. He "hobbled" himself because his personality got in the way.

              I still think his policies (more libertarian than republican) are exactly what this country needs.

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              • #22
                If Republicans thought a new party would split their vote, they might vote in Congress to convict Trump at his impeachment trial and follow that with a permanet ban on holding a public office.
                “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                “not all there” - you know who you are

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                  If Republicans thought a new party would split their vote, they might vote in Congress to convict Trump at his impeachment trial and follow that with a permanet ban on holding a public office.
                  Vote to convict and bar a person from office for purely political motives...I can see how you would suggest that.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                    If Republicans thought a new party would split their vote, they might vote in Congress to convict Trump at his impeachment trial and follow that with a permanet ban on holding a public office.
                    Just out of curiosity, are there any other foreign nations in whose politics you like to dabble?
                    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by whag View Post

                      Did Trump's continual self-hobbling bug you?
                      Yes, I mean Trump taking a ball peen hammer to his knees on a daily basis.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                        I accepted the fact he is a dysfunctional person. Anyone born with a silver spoon isn't going to operate like most people, and Trump lived life getting his way all the time. He "hobbled" himself because his personality got in the way.

                        I still think his policies (more libertarian than republican) are exactly what this country needs.
                        All he had to do was pass policies like a normal president. If I was a supporter, I'd be livid at him for committing the biggest bungle in political history and justifying his worst critics.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by whag View Post

                          Yes, I mean Trump taking a ball peen hammer to his knees on a daily basis.
                          Come on, man, go big --- chain saw!!!
                          "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                            It's because our favorite candidates don't usually rise to the top. I didn't want to see Trump or Hillary in 2016 so I voted for Rand Paul (primaries) and Gary Johnson in the general election. But in 2020, I did vote for Trump, not against Biden.

                            I'd still like to see Paul, Josh Hawley or Tulsi Gabbard rise up in 2024. I could vote for any of them without holding my nose.
                            Rand Paul was my pick early on, but he seemed to disappear before his campaign could even get started. Besides, I think Hillary would have destroyed him during the general. Actually, I'm not sure any of the 2016 candidates besides Trump could have beat Hillary, and the only reason Trump lost to China Joe is because of the significant "irregularities" that happened during the vote counting process.
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                              Rand Paul was my pick early on, but he seemed to disappear before his campaign could even get started. Besides, I think Hillary would have destroyed him during the general.
                              Unfortunately for Paul he doesn't have the stature. He's short, doesn't speak very loudly, and isn't aggressive enough in a debate. And although optics shouldn't play much of a part in this, it does. Hillary is loud and dominating, so yeah, Paul likely would have been crushed.

                              Actually, I'm not sure any of the 2016 candidates besides Trump could have beat Hillary, and the only reason Trump lost to China Joe is because of the significant "irregularities" that happened during the vote counting process.
                              Probably. Those irregularities defy both logic and statistical feasibility.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                                Rand Paul was my pick early on, but he seemed to disappear before his campaign could even get started. Besides, I think Hillary would have destroyed him during the general. Actually, I'm not sure any of the 2016 candidates besides Trump could have beat Hillary, and the only reason Trump lost to China Joe is because of the significant "irregularities" that happened during the vote counting process.
                                I would vote for Dan Chrenshaw if he ran. We need a pirate potus

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