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Biden Issues EO Requiring Masks On Federal Land; He And Family Promptly Violate It
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Originally posted by seanD View PostWell now, that isn't true. According to Fauci, folks who fiddle with their masks could make wearing one worse, I presume because if they're constantly touching it, they're making themselves more susceptible than if they didn't have an object to touch so close to their face. It sounds like your making up risks about covid on-the-fly just to defend your political team, as leftists like you usually do.
The more current understanding is that the primary risk is breathing the same air as an infected person, with the risk being proportionate to how much virus is in the air you breathe and how long you breathe it. Those two factors determine how big a dose of the virus you get, which in turn determines how likely you are to become infected, and how likely you are to become seriously ill if you do get infected.
Obviously, if you and an infected person take off your masks, stand close together, and talk, laugh, sing, or cough, especially indoors, your chances of being infected are pretty good. Same for if you are in an enclosed space simply breathing the same air for a long time. But quietly posing for a picture for a moment is a different matter.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Sounds like you are referring to something Fauci said back when scientists thought that fomites were a major mode of transmission.
The more current understanding is that the primary risk is breathing the same air as an infected person, with the risk being proportionate to how much virus is in the air you breathe and how long you breathe it. Those two factors determine how big a dose of the virus you get, which in turn determines how likely you are to become infected, and how likely you are to become seriously ill if you do get infected.
Obviously, if you and an infected person take off your masks, stand close together, and talk, laugh, sing, or cough, especially indoors, your chances of being infected are pretty good. Same for if you are in an enclosed space simply breathing the same air for a long time. But quietly posing for a picture for a moment is a different matter.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostFair enough. This thread is definitely a keeper though for reference the next time some leftist blowhard covid nazi in here vilifies a conservative for temporarily removing their mask or not social distancing, which is sure to happen.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Ah, yes, because we know the camera flash briefly magically neutralizes virus particles in the air.
Trump, who dismissed and refused to wear a face mask for months, now says wearing one is 'patriotic' like him
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Originally posted by whag View Post
Ah, yes, because we know that calling mask wearing "patriotic" magically makes masks effective:
Trump, who dismissed and refused to wear a face mask for months, now says wearing one is 'patriotic' like him
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Oh, so you believe masks are not effective? Sounds like you're saying that.
Trump downplaying that fact then suddenly declaring it “patriotic” didn’t suddenly make masks effective. They were always effective blockers of biological nastiness, which, again, is why they have been worn in hospitals well before COVID.
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Originally posted by whag View Post
No, when someone breathes, coughs, and sneezes while wearing a mask, many of the droplets containing viruses and bacteria are blocked because droplets are bigger than the viruses and bacteria themselves. This has always been the case and is why nurses and doctors wear them.
Trump downplaying that fact then suddenly declaring it “patriotic” didn’t suddenly make masks effective. They were always effective blockers of biological nastiness, which, again, is why they have been worn in hospitals well before COVID.
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Originally posted by whag View Post
No, when someone breathes, coughs, and sneezes while wearing a mask, many of the droplets containing viruses and bacteria are blocked because droplets are bigger than the viruses and bacteria themselves. This has always been the case and is why nurses and doctors wear them.
Trump downplaying that fact then suddenly declaring it “patriotic” didn’t suddenly make masks effective. They were always effective blockers of biological nastiness, which, again, is why they have been worn in hospitals well before COVID.
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Originally posted by Stoic View PostI doubt that the restrictions were in place for anyone, that quickly.
An executive order is not quite like a law, which can take effect instantly. It's an instruction to the people running the government to do something, like make a new rule, and then enforce it. (If you don't believe me, read it yourself.) The process takes time.
But I would agree that it's not good optics if his own grandkids aren't behaving responsibly.
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Originally posted by whag View Post
I’m talking about masks and arbitrary opinions of them, of which Trump took part by declaring the wearing of them *cough* “patriotic.”
When it served him.
If you want to rant about OMB, do so on another thread of your own creation, please.
Continue to remain off topic and I will kindly ask you to leave my thread entirely.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Again, this topic is about Biden, his EO requiring mask wearing on Federal Land, and He and his family subsequently failing to follow (let alone lead by example)
If you want to rant about OMB, do so on another thread of your own creation, please.
Continue to remain off topic and I will kindly ask you to leave my thread entirely.
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