Handsy Joe cancels Keystone

[whag]

What's your point?

You called Biden a "moron" for calling it tar sands. Petroleum is a geologically ancient substance that you believe was created in its current form ~6,000 ya. Geology has confirmed its ancient origin dating back to the carboniferous period in earth's history ~300 mya.

Here's how oil is extracted from sand (bold mine):

"In its natural state, bitumen is typically mixed with “oil sands” or “tar sands,” which makes it extremely difficult to extract and an unconventional source of oil. Only about 20% of the world’s reserves of bitumen are above ground and can be surface mined.

Unfortunately, because bitumen contains high amounts of sulfur and heavy metals, extracting and refining it is both costly and harmful to the environment. Producing bitumen into useful products releases 12% more carbon emissions than processing conventional oil.

Bitumen is about the consistency of cold molasses, and powerful hot steam has to be pumped into the well in order to melt the bitumen to extract it. Large quantities of water are then used to separate the bitumen from sand and clay. This process depletes nearby water supplies. Releasing the treated water back into the environment can further contaminate the remaining water supply."

[mossrose]

They also didn't appear fully formed 6,000 years ago:



https://www.capp.ca/oil/history-of-oil/

What's your point?

[rogue06]

They aren't "tar sands", you moron! And you just shut down 2000 jobs! You keep getting your oil from the Middle East, then, where human rights are virtually non-existent! You are SO stupid that you don't know that Alberta oil is the cleanest environmentally on the planet! But you keep listening to the other liars who lie about the OIL SANDS!

And our jackass PM is only "disappointed"? After he said yesterday and today that he would talk to Joe about it and make Joe see the light? Trudeau and Biden are both liars!



https://globalnews.ca/news/7588853/b...s-keystone-xl/

Hours after he was sworn into office, U.S. President Joe Biden has signed an executive order to revoke the permit that would allow the Keystone XL pipeline expansion project to continue.

The project which was previously approved by TC Energy would see the 1,930-kilometre pipeline transport up to 830,000 barrels of oil a day from Alberta to Nebraska.

The project was expected to cost US$8 billion.

The expansion was green-lit by former U.S. president Donald Trump in January of last year.


However, Biden had long promised to rescind the presidential permit in keeping with his campaign promise to shift the U.S. from fossil fuels and towards clean energy.

Speaking to CNBC last year, Biden said the pipeline “is tar sands that we don’t need — that in fact (are a) very, very high pollutant.”

Biden said claims that shutting down the Keystone pipeline would do undue damage to the oil industry are “just not rational,” adding that the arguments do not make any environmental or economic sense.

In a statement Wednesday evening, Trudeau said the move was disappointing.

“”While we welcome the President’s commitment to fight climate change, we are disappointed but acknowledge the President’s decision to fulfill his election campaign promise on Keystone XL,” he said.

Trudeau said he spoke with Biden about the project last November, adding that Canada’s Ambassador to the U.S., Kirsten Hillman and others “made the case to high-level officials in the incoming administration.”

Has anyone let old Joe that he cancelled it yet?

[whag]

They aren't "tar sands", you moron!

They also didn't appear fully formed 6,000 years ago:

Alberta’s oil sands were formed millions of years ago, as tiny marine creatures died and drifted to the sea floor and were covered by layers of sediment that exerted enough pressure and temperatures to transform the organic matter into oil.

Over millions of years, that oil became trapped in thick layers of sand. Gradually, lighter hydrocarbons evaporated or were consumed by bacteria, leaving bitumen and water trapped in the sand. The area was then covered by glacial debris, but oil sands outcrops along the Athabasca River showed where deposits lay buried.

https://www.capp.ca/oil/history-of-oil/

[mossrose]

They aren't "tar sands", you moron! And you just shut down 2000 jobs! You keep getting your oil from the Middle East, then, where human rights are virtually non-existent! You are SO stupid that you don't know that Alberta oil is the cleanest environmentally on the planet! But you keep listening to the other liars who lie about the OIL SANDS!

And our jackass PM is only "disappointed"? After he said yesterday and today that he would talk to Joe about it and make Joe see the light? Trudeau and Biden are both liars!



https://globalnews.ca/news/7588853/b...s-keystone-xl/

Hours after he was sworn into office, U.S. President Joe Biden has signed an executive order to revoke the permit that would allow the Keystone XL pipeline expansion project to continue.

The project which was previously approved by TC Energy would see the 1,930-kilometre pipeline transport up to 830,000 barrels of oil a day from Alberta to Nebraska.

The project was expected to cost US$8 billion.

The expansion was green-lit by former U.S. president Donald Trump in January of last year.


However, Biden had long promised to rescind the presidential permit in keeping with his campaign promise to shift the U.S. from fossil fuels and towards clean energy.

Speaking to CNBC last year, Biden said the pipeline “is tar sands that we don’t need — that in fact (are a) very, very high pollutant.”

Biden said claims that shutting down the Keystone pipeline would do undue damage to the oil industry are “just not rational,” adding that the arguments do not make any environmental or economic sense.

In a statement Wednesday evening, Trudeau said the move was disappointing.

“”While we welcome the President’s commitment to fight climate change, we are disappointed but acknowledge the President’s decision to fulfill his election campaign promise on Keystone XL,” he said.

Trudeau said he spoke with Biden about the project last November, adding that Canada’s Ambassador to the U.S., Kirsten Hillman and others “made the case to high-level officials in the incoming administration.”

Edit to add: If you bring Trump up in this thread you will be asked to leave.