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Franklin Graham likens Republicans voting to impeach to Christ's betrayal
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Originally posted by Charles View PostAnd Rogue has an even bigger library in his archive of stuff his enemies have said that I am sure he will be happy to promote.
Originally posted by Charles View PostAnd at some point he might even convince himself that it makes the statemts Franklin Graham made less bad, that we should focus on something else, that "the others" did it too. At least he can call someone a hypocrite or something...
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"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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Getting back to the OP, it seems like many of the pastors who were "famous" in the 60's through 90's like Bill Graham, Charles Stanley, and Jerry Falwell, failed to pass their spiritual knowledge and moral behavior to their sons. Not unlike the priest Eli and his sons."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View PostGetting back to the OP, it seems like many of the pastors who were "famous" in the 60's through 90's like Bill Graham, Charles Stanley, and Jerry Falwell, failed to pass their spiritual knowledge and moral behavior to their sons. Not unlike the priest Eli and his sons.
And you left out Osteen -- I personally knew his Dad, and his Dad, John, was a very standup guy - til, eventually, he got into the more charismatic stuff.
And think of the Kings and Prophets in the OT whose offspring did not follow in their footsteps.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Yes, sir - I've mentioned this before --- it's like they think it's a passing on of "our family's always been in law enforcement, so my son will be a cop" kind of thing.
And you left out Osteen -- I personally knew his Dad, and his Dad, John, was a very standup guy - til, eventually, he got into the more charismatic stuff.
And think of the Kings and Prophets in the OT whose offspring did not follow in their footsteps.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Yes, sir - I've mentioned this before --- it's like they think it's a passing on of "our family's always been in law enforcement, so my son will be a cop" kind of thing.
And you left out Osteen -- I personally knew his Dad, and his Dad, John, was a very standup guy - til, eventually, he got into the more charismatic stuff.
And think of the Kings and Prophets in the OT whose offspring did not follow in their footsteps.
As I've mentioned elsewhere, I've seen a couple local churches the father trying to pass the ministry on to the son. Neither ended well."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Yes, sir - I've mentioned this before --- it's like they think it's a passing on of "our family's always been in law enforcement, so my son will be a cop" kind of thing.
And you left out Osteen -- I personally knew his Dad, and his Dad, John, was a very standup guy - til, eventually, he got into the more charismatic stuff.
And think of the Kings and Prophets in the OT whose offspring did not follow in their footsteps.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Faber View PostLast edited by shunyadragon; 01-17-2021, 08:13 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou're quite right, it was indeed "the Democrats [and] not Franklin 'Gramm' who considered Obama to a Messiah."Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou're quite right, it was indeed "the Democrats [and] not Franklin 'Gramm' who considered Obama to a Messiah."Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Competent source would help to make your case. These atrocious pictures are patently over the top ridiculous, worse than yellow journalism. These references ridicule Obama, and do not represent the Democrat view of the proesident,
And don't even get me started on the near deification of Obama in many quarters, where normally respected journalists were saying he is "standing above the country, above -- above the world, he’s sort of God" and "He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh" as well as frankly declaring how they thought Obama was the Messiah.
And the bottom image that Faber posted was being sold at the Democratic National Convention in 2012, IIRC just inside the Time Warner Cable Arena where it would have needed to be approved unlike something being hawked on the sidewalk outside the building.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostOh! I forgot Franklin Graham is the Republican prophet designate along with Miz White to anoint the chosen one Messiah Donald Trump.
Frustratingly making things up doesn't help your case and just makes you look like a fool
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostNo, the Democrats never considered Obama. You need to cite some competent source from Democrats and not atrocious pictures ridiculing Obama already posted.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Returning to the OP. From Baptist News Global (according to Media Bias Fact Check they have a left of center bias):
[*All boldening is in the original*]
I'll note that citing what the qur'an has to say is irrelevant (the author is a big time supporter of Interfaith Movement and it shows here), but his remark about picking traitors from American history rather than Judas was spot on
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
I never heard of John Osteen.
As I've mentioned elsewhere, I've seen a couple local churches the father trying to pass the ministry on to the son. Neither ended well.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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