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Bernie Sanders named Chair of the Senate Budget Committee

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ronson View Post
    Bernie in charge of the Senate Budget Committee. Now I know the animals are running the zoo.
    The crazies are running the asylum!
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

      The crazies are running the asylum!
      OK. Your version is more politically acceptable.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
        I think this means we're going to see lots of money for existing and new social programs and cuts to defense spending.
        Why do we need yearly increases in defense spending when we are not under any specific threat and our everlasting GOP wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are supposedly running down?
        Why do we need to support 700+ military bases in other countries? And thousands of Generals with expensive entourages?

        Why not spend the money at home for things people need, like healthcare access, repaired roads and bridges, affordable higher education, etc.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by kccd View Post

          Why do we need yearly increases in defense spending when we are not under any specific threat and our everlasting GOP wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are supposedly running down?
          Why do we need to support 700+ military bases in other countries? And thousands of Generals with expensive entourages?

          Why not spend the money at home for things people need, like healthcare access, repaired roads and bridges, affordable higher education, etc.
          In one word: China.

          I will agree with you the wars in Iran and Afghanistan (yes begun by Republicans but continued under Democrat Obama) should be ended. I have no clear idea why we are still in Afghanistan.
          "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

          "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

            The crazies are running the asylum!
            This is about me isn't it?

            I mean a fella gets locked up just one time you ain't ever gonna let me forget it.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #21
              Originally posted by kccd View Post
              Why do we need yearly increases in defense spending when we are not under any specific threat
              The United States is currently under threat, but the enemy is domestic and not foreign. The number of National Guard troops currently deployed to defend DC is over 3 times the number of US troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria combined. Sadly, the troops are being deployed in DC to protect Americans from Americans.
              "The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." - P. J. O'Rourke

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                Bernie Sanders named Chair of the Senate Budget Committee
                That's incredible news and a really big deal!


                Maybe there's light at the end of the tunnel for America after all.

                However I don't hold much hope that Biden/Pelosi/Schumer will give him a free reign. I'm expecting the net effect of this to be about one good piece of financial support for the American people that they wouldn't otherwise have gotten. It probably won't have any larger effect than that unfortunately. The centrists are too entrenched for there to be any support for the kind of radical assistance for the American people and businesses that they need.


                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Bernie, like even most Republican politicians today, has little to no concern about balancing the budget.
                The Democrats went to heroic lengths under Clinton to balance the budget, after being given hugely unbalanced budgets as the legacy of Reagan and Bush Snr. But in hindsight, the Dems got nothing for their efforts. It didn't win them votes, and Bush Jr simply blew their balanced budget out of the water and created huge deficits again. There's no real political incentive for the Democrats to try again to fix the Republican's budget deficits as they don't get rewarded for it.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                  I think this means we're going to see lots of money for existing and new social programs and cuts to defense spending.
                  And that, surely, is something to be welcomed. Swords to ploughshares etc.
                  "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

                    In one word: China.
                    The USA may have to learn to get used to that.

                    Empires rise. Empires fall.

                    "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by kccd View Post

                      Why do we need yearly increases in defense spending when we are not under any specific threat and our everlasting GOP wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are supposedly running down?
                      Why do we need to support 700+ military bases in other countries? And thousands of Generals with expensive entourages?
                      Because all that military paraphernalia.gives some men ...........well I won't continue but I am sure you comprehend my meaning.

                      Originally posted by kccd View Post
                      Why not spend the money at home for things people need, like healthcare access, repaired roads and bridges, affordable higher education, etc.
                      What a good idea.

                      However, the military-industrial complex has a place at the heart of US government, a powerful lobby, and provides a great many jobs.

                      Oh and just for interest - I found this which touches on organisations with power in government. https://medium.com/swlh/the-it-gover...x-4c6d8b52ee48


                      "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

                        I work for the Defense Department. We have already been told to expect substantial budget cuts from our Agency Commander.
                        Now is not a good time to work in aerospace. Whenever a democrat won the Whitehouse the layoffs would start.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post

                          The Democrats went to heroic lengths under Clinton to balance the budget, after being given hugely unbalanced budgets as the legacy of Reagan and Bush Snr. But in hindsight, the Dems got nothing for their efforts. It didn't win them votes, and Bush Jr simply blew their balanced budget out of the water and created huge deficits again. There's no real political incentive for the Democrats to try again to fix the Republican's budget deficits as they don't get rewarded for it.
                          When Reagan was president the Democrats in control of Congress habitually spent $2 for every $1 that the government brought in as revenue and then blamed Reagan for the deficit.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Reepicheep View Post

                            The United States is currently under threat, but the enemy is domestic and not foreign. The number of National Guard troops currently deployed to defend DC is over 3 times the number of US troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria combined. Sadly, the troops are being deployed in DC to protect Americans from Americans.
                            Yes, the liberals are doing everything they can to grossly exaggerate the threat so they can clamp down like the power hungry control freaks they are.
                            "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

                              Bernie comes from a generation that balanced the budget with defense cuts. They still think that even though its not really possible anymore:
                              Of course the government's idea of a "balanced budget" is like eating equal parts healthy foods and junk foods and calling it a "balanced diet".
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Reepicheep View Post

                                The United States is currently under threat, but the enemy is domestic and not foreign. The number of National Guard troops currently deployed to defend DC is over 3 times the number of US troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria combined. Sadly, the troops are being deployed in DC to protect Americans from Americans.
                                Well, Biden has to boost his crowd size SOMEHOW...
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