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  • #46
    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

    Thank you.
    So, if all of that is out of your system...

    Back to the topic of the OP.

    Is it reasonable to assume that AOC, a person who gave "protesters" guidance on hiding their identities during the riots this summer, is calling for violence when she says there needs to be an "actual liberation of southern states" from the GOP?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

      So, if all of that is out of your system...

      Back to the topic of the OP.

      Is it reasonable to assume that AOC, a person who gave "protesters" guidance on hiding their identities during the riots this summer, is calling for violence when she says there needs to be an "actual liberation of southern states" from the GOP?
      No - she's just talking about democrats gaining more traction in southern states - 'liberating' them from GOP control.

      It's rather obvious from the context and from what appears to be the actual article on fox from which your quote is derived, which actually references her calls for Ted Cruz and Josh Howley to resign and states explicitly she is talking about GOP control of those legislatures and the structural racism that allows it to continue. It's really absurd to try to push that into some sort of equivalence with calling for an insurrection. She's just talking about continuing to work to give the minorities in Southern states a clear voice in their elections, as happened in GA.

      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc...om-gop-control
      Last edited by oxmixmudd; 01-13-2021, 05:36 PM.
      He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

      "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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      • #48
        Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

        No - she's just talking about democrats gaining more traction in southern states - 'liberating' them from GOP control.

        It's rather obvious from the context and from what appears to be the actual article on fox from which your quote is derived, which actually references her calls for Ted Cruz and Josh Howley to resign and states explicitly she is talking about GOP control of those legislatures and the structural racism that allows it to continue. It's really absurd to try to push that into some sort of equivalence with calling for an insurrection. She's just talking about continuing to work to give the minorities in Southern states a clear voice in their elections, as happened in GA.

        https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc...om-gop-control
        I would say that it's not "obvious" at all. She's talking about forcing congressmen out of their seats, and talking about "actual" liberation.

        The only thing she mentions is that the grass roots efforts proved they were "suppressed states", not that it was just about legislatures.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

          I would say that it's not "obvious" at all. She's talking about forcing congressmen out of their seats, and talking about "actual" liberation.

          The only thing she mentions is that the grass roots efforts proved they were "suppressed states", not that it was just about legislatures.
          No - she's not. you know it, I know it.
          He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

          "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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          • #50
            Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

            No - she's not. you know it, I know it.
            I wouldn't count on it. Like I said, she put out a graphic during the summer riots telling people how to hide their identity while "protesting" under the guise of protesting safely.

            Why would someone need to hide their identity while protesting?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

              I wouldn't count on it. Like I said, she put out a graphic during the summer riots telling people how to hide their identity while "protesting" under the guise of protesting safely.

              Why would someone need to hide their identity while protesting?
              A lot of reasons - but I'm not trying to justify AOC outside of the fact there is nothing in what she said that even hints at a violent insurrection.

              And I'm not an AOC supporter by any stretch.
              He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

              "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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              • #52
                Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

                A lot of reasons - but I'm not trying to justify AOC outside of the fact there is nothing in what she said that even hints at a violent insurrection.

                And I'm not an AOC supporter by any stretch.
                Oh, I disagree.

                I am done giving her the benefit of the doubt. It's entirely possible given her history of supporting violent riots that she was encouraging violent behavior. Even if she threw in a few CYA's.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                  Oh, I disagree.

                  I am done giving her the benefit of the doubt. It's entirely possible given her history of supporting violent riots that she was encouraging violent behavior. Even if she threw in a few CYA's.
                  And now she's suggesting the need to "reign in" the media.
                  "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                    Oh, I disagree.

                    I am done giving her the benefit of the doubt. It's entirely possible given her history of supporting violent riots that she was encouraging violent behavior. Even if she threw in a few CYA's.
                    I wouldn't really be able to argue one way or the other in terms of AOC. I tend to think the buzz about her in conservative circles in terms of her being
                    For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

                    Fidel Castro's niece

                    is overblown.

                    I know for a fact the comments she made you referenced above are not any sort of call to insurrection.
                    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

                    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

                      I wouldn't really be able to argue one way or the other in terms of AOC. I tend to think the buzz about her in conservative circles in terms of her being
                      For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

                      Fidel Castro's niece

                      is overblown.

                      I know for a fact the comments she made you referenced above are not any sort of call to insurrection.
                      There are alot of similarities between her and trump. Cults of personality, thin skin, needs to lash out, populist appeals, authoritarian bent.

                      Remember, she did call for an enemies list.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                        There are alot of similarities between her and trump. Cults of personality, thin skin, needs to lash out, populist appeals, authoritarian bent.

                        Remember, she did call for an enemies list.
                        She is a very vindictive little snit - perhaps that's why Pelosi likes her.
                        "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                          She is a very vindictive little snit - perhaps that's why Pelosi likes her.
                          Pelosi....doesn't like her.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                            Pelosi....doesn't like her.
                            Ah -- competition?
                            "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                              Ah -- competition?
                              Well, AOC challenges her power, primaries incumbents, and has called her a racist. None of that really sits well with Pelosi. Pelosi has made a few snide comments in her direction in the past. The latest when she said aoc's comment was "kind of sharp"

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                                Well, AOC challenges her power, primaries incumbents, and has called her a racist. None of that really sits well with Pelosi. Pelosi has made a few snide comments in her direction in the past. The latest when she said aoc's comment was "kind of sharp"
                                Good points, all.
                                "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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