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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAfter the 2016 election the democrats claimed Trump colluded with the Russians to steal the election, that the Russians hacked the voting machines, they rioted in the streets, burning half of Washington DC, and then we had faithless electors vote against Trump...
There were also far more faithless electors who voted against Clinton, which you have either forgotten or deliberately omitted and which completely reverses whatever point you though you were making.
Your other complaints may have some merit, but this one is so bad it detracts from their impact.Last edited by Roy; 01-13-2021, 06:52 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
That would be an exaggeration. In most cases there wasn't enough legitimate evidence to keep them from being laughed out of the court room.
Not having sufficient court evidence is not the same thing as something not existing. Perhaps you should try to convince a court that black holes exist. The burden of proof for Trump's attorneys was quite heavy.
As for some fraud. There is bound to be some anomalies in any event involving millions. Taking those all the way to fraud requires some work, and if the sum total of all the anomalies are stiil in the noise, the only people that care enough to do that work are people that are paranoid or obsessed.
There needs to be evidence of a problem big enough to have some reasonable expectation it could have affected the result. Anything else is just wasting everyone's time, or as in this case, fodder for creating unrest and doubt and fomenting chaos.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
When you say "the courts", you mean individual judges who never let any of the cases go to trial where the evidence could have a full and fair hearing.
Unfortunately in Trump's case, he had a deadline to battle against. They had to go with what they had and it wasn't enough. But some fraudsters may flip in the future, confess, and expose much more evidence. We'll see.
The main thing is reform. McConnell fought against reform previously (on the pretense it was a partisan bill). It makes me quite suspicious of him.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
Destruction of what?
The violent mob involved in the insurrection was not in any way primarily motivated by destruction of property, but anarchists are.
And as to the term "insurrection"...
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How can you know whether or not someone is a BLM protestor or an anarchist?That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
And you accuse me of exaggeration? Please.
More often than not that was an accurate description of the response to the 'evidence. In some cases it was more angry, like 'how dare you waste the courts time on this ridiculousness. At least once giulliani admitted he didn't even have evidence of fraud to submit!
Not having sufficient court evidence is not the same thing as something not existing. Perhaps you should try to convince a court that black holes exist. The burden of proof for Trump's attorneys was quite heavy.
I believe that's what I said.
If YOU understand Donald Trump's campaign that has completely undermined the peaceful transfer of power is itself fraudulent - i.e YOU know there is not evidence of sufficient fraud to change the result - how in the world do you justify supporting him as he has lied about that fact for nearly three months and as he has undermined the trust of the American people wrt one of the most critical elements of our democracy - to the point many are willing to threaten armed protests of the inauguration in 50 capitols and DC?My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
There was fraud. Most everyone acknowledges that."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
I'm afraid you don't actually get to set such rules. Licona got spanked on that a while back.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Then why no demands/requests for Republican votes to be examined as well? It is odd that Trump only wanted votes recounted in swing states that he lost.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Perhaps for the same reason democrats never demand recounts in close states that they win."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostMore often than not that was an accurate description of the response to the 'evidence. In some cases it was more angry, like 'how dare you waste the courts time on this ridiculousness. At least once giulliani admitted he didn't even have evidence of fraud to submit!
Says who?
And why would anyone even consider overturning an election on hearsay without any actual evidence? Hearsay in some cases coming from people that clearly don't have it all together- as we see above.
And so you support Donald Trump's campaign over supposed election fraud that incited a mob to storm the capitol because ...?
If YOU understand Donald Trump's campaign that has completely undermined the peaceful transfer of power is itself fraudulent - i.e YOU know there is not evidence of sufficient fraud to change the result - how in the world do you justify supporting him as he has lied about that fact for nearly three months and as he has undermined the trust of the American people wrt one of the most critical elements of our democracy - to the point many are willing to threaten armed protests of the inauguration in 50 capitols and DC?
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
I'm afraid you don't actually get to set such rules. Licona got spanked on that a while back.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
According to MSM? Gee, it's not like they're biased or anything.
Says me.
All I was hoping for was a new election in contested states.
Can you rephrase that?
Thoroughly loaded question. Have you stopped beating your wife yet?
Eg if someone says:
"I used to beat my wife"
Then:
"when did you stop beating your wife"
Is NOT a loaded question.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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